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DATE | 2018-03-04 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Re: [Learn] Year 2038 time set problem
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From learn-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sun Mar 4 21:26:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B5D16114A; Sun, 4 Mar 2018 21:26:36 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: learn-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: learn-at-nylxs.com Received: from [10.0.0.62] (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.83]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084AF161132; Sun, 4 Mar 2018 21:25:37 -0500 (EST) From: Ruben Safir To: Hangout , "learn-at-nylxs.com" References: <77520.1520202258-at-turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <6bdb37d6-81c6-1948-71a8-cbb9d458836e-at-mrbrklyn.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 21:25:37 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <77520.1520202258-at-turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [Learn] Year 2038 time set problem X-BeenThere: learn-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: learn-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Learn"
On 03/04/2018 05:24 PM, valdis.kletnieks-at-vt.edu wrote: > If you can't afford the disruption of service a reboot causes, you *really* > need to be deploying HA or load-balancer solutions. > > Because if you can't afford a reboot's worth of 15-20 minutes of downtime, you > *really* can't afford the 6-8 hours you're probably going to be down if a chip > soldered onto the motherboard/backplane fries. > > (All of $DAYJOB's important systems are behind HA or load-balancers, as well as > HA-capable storage. Let's just say that some vendors make it easier than > others to set up 8+2 RAID6 across 10 separate shelves of storage, and designing > mutli-petabyte solutions without single points of failure is harder than it looks :) >
These questions always lead into these philosophical discussions as to how I should run my boxes and theoretical flights of opinionated rubbish that I am not interested in. I got the answer to the question I needed and it is very sobering.
I am not setting up a high availability cluster in my house, thank you. And fwiw, I've run systems for 6-8 years without rebooting on pc hardware. My little fanless fit/pc service running an intel atom had at one time run 5 years without rebooting. I only had a system fry once while it was up an running since the late 1990's until today, and in that case it was wild power surge and the hardware was up and running in 20 minutes with a swap out of the hard drive.
The linux kernel is integrated into dozens of devices which never see the light of day for kernel upgrades from PPOE routers, IOT devices, cellphones, VOIP boxes, electrocardiograms, menu displays for McDonalds, signal boxes on train systems, etc etc etc.
What has been described is a huge security problem and your solution is a non-starter and doesn't help the broader problem.
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