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DATE | 2017-03-14 |
FROM | Ramon Nagesan
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SUBJECT | Re: [Learn] CatScan fossil files
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Hi Ruben,
Sorry about the delay in my response, I had several deadlines to meet at the end of last week and the beginning of this week. It was great meeting you last week, and I'm keen to see where your A.I work takes you. I was chatting with a colleague at the University of Calgary who said he is aware of other researchers in the states that are trying to construct neural networks to assess the phylogenetic characteristics of various early tetrapods. Are you aware of this work?
The file type that is output from a CT scanner is a "diacom", these need to be converted to either a jpeg or tif in a diacom converter, and then processed into an image stack in a software called "ImageJ". These image stacks are then uploaded to "AMIRA" (FEI) for processing into 3D models. I'm curious to see if you'll be able to streamline this process.
I did a little bit of research and there are several repositories for paleontological CT data: http://datadryad.org/ http://digimorph.org/ https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/
I think you'll find those sites very helpful for getting access to CT data of material that you can play around with. Some of the data is freely available, some of it you have to request.
Those links looked very cool! One lab you should check out is the Whitmer lab, they are located at the University of Ohio. They do a great deal of CT work, and then 3D modelling as a result (see: https://sketchfab.com/witmerlab).
Again, my apologies for the late reply. Have a great day! Please feel free to contact me whenever.
Sincerely, Ramon
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> Dr Nagesan > > Ramon! I wanted to thank you for the time you gave me on Monday. It was > very interesting > and I think your doing the best work. It must be very exciting and I am > interested in > following your advancements. Do you have an currently available resources > on the topics > and on the Sea Reptiles. > > Also, I need, if you don't mind, the name of that file type that the scans > make and the > software you use to interpret the images. I think you mentioned digitbind? > Also, can you > tell me procedure you use to go from a scan to a tif stack? I'd be very > interested in > knowing how you go about that in an effort to perhaps automating it. It > would be even > better to go from catscan directly to 3d printing ... or AI > interpretations. > > Ruben Safir > MS Comp Sci - LIU/Brooklyn > > PS - here are a few tibits > https://ehealthnieuws.blogspot.com/2016/10/staart- > van-t-rex-trix-krijgt-door.html > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j-Y4LUecoU > https://sketchfab.com/models/8bb05194fb6d4c8a9afa3c61a58d47c7 > http://www.naturalis.nl/media/library/2016/06/Pressfile_T. > rex_June_2016.pdf > http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/philips-colors- > t-rex-trixs-tail-using-its-spectral-ct-technology-300335677.html > http://www.philips.com/a-w/about/news/archive/standard/ > news/press/2016/20160928-philips-colors-t-rex-trix-s- > tail-using-its-spectral-ct-technology.html > http://www.ndt.net/article/wcndt2016/papers/fr2c4.pdf > http://www.ndt.net/article/wcndt2016/papers/fr2c4.pdf > https://www.itnonline.com/content/fraunhofer-presents- > ct-scan-major-t-rex-skull-find > > -- > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > http://www.mrbrklyn.com > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > http://www.brooklyn-living.com > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 >
-- *Ramon Nagesan* *M.Sc. Student, Biological Sciences Department* *University of Calgary * *Calgary, Ab. * *&* *Fossil Preparation & Education Liaison * *Royal Tyrrell Museum of Paleontology * *Drumheller, Ab.*
*2016*
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Hi Ruben,
Sorry about the delay in my r= esponse, I had several deadlines to meet at the end of last week and the be= ginning of this week.=C2=A0 It was great meeting you last week, a= nd I'm keen to see where your A.I work takes you. I was chatting with a= colleague at the University of Calgary who said he is aware of other resea= rchers in the states that are trying to construct neural networks to assess= the phylogenetic characteristics of various early tetrapods. Are you aware= of this work?=C2=A0
The file type that is output = from a CT scanner is a "diacom", these need to be converted to ei= ther a jpeg or tif in a diacom converter, and then processed into an image = stack in a software called "ImageJ". These image stacks are then = uploaded to "AMIRA" (FEI) for processing into 3D models. I'm = curious to see if you'll be able to streamline this process.=C2=A0 >
I did a little bit of research and there are several r= epositories for paleontological CT data:=C2=A0 iv>
I think you'll find those sites very helpful for gett= ing access to CT data of material that you can play around with. Some of th= e data is freely available, some of it you have to request.=C2=A0 >
Again, my apologies for the late reply. Hav= e a great day! Please feel free to contact me whenever.=C2=A0 >
Sincerely,=C2=A0 Ramon _extra"> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Rube= n Safir <=3D"_blank">ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> wrote: =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd= ing-left:1ex">Dr Nagesan
Ramon! I wanted to thank you for the time you gave me on Monday. It was ver= y interesting
and I think your doing the best work. It must be very exciting and I am int= erested in
following your advancements. Do you have an currently available resources o= n the topics
and on the Sea Reptiles.
Also, I need, if you don't mind, the name of that file type that the sc= ans make and the
software you use to interpret the images. I think you mentioned digitbind? = Also, can you
tell me procedure you use to go from a scan to a tif stack? I'd be very= interested in
knowing how you go about that in an effort to perhaps automating it. It wou= ld be even
better to go from catscan directly to 3d printing ... or AI interpretations= .
Ruben Safir
MS Comp Sci - LIU/Brooklyn
PS - here are a few tibits
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