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DATE | 2016-10-10 |
FROM | Dalton Meyer
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SUBJECT | Re: [Learn] [dinosaur] phylogeny tyrannosauroid dinosaurs
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From learn-bounces-at-nylxs.com Mon Oct 10 14:16:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www.mrbrklyn.com (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B3A163E9C; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 14:16:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: learn-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: learn-at-nylxs.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 47BB0163E9A; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 14:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 14:16:06 -0400 Resent-Message-ID: <20161010181606.GA16749-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: learn-at-nylxs.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from mail-oi0-f44.google.com (mail-oi0-f44.google.com [209.85.218.44]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1B7161469 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 01:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f44.google.com with SMTP id d132so116234084oib.2 for ; Sun, 09 Oct 2016 22:23:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=znX0quqJuE7Csrf7QSt6rVYpQTsZRZJtRyvUF0fO1ok=; b=eTzAVs/DXcNssZpDCXZae9/mIqNuVnfw9gP6jI/4ze/NHLwfHF6t45Wm3osrfd+TH5 EyDaTnrDXNgoJk+xeBAdgDMOoz8lZNngAwF87NFzptSJp/UBgmYiyiXEwc3CtB1nnoPl gXwdusUBWU7pD8sOnboEGDLgE0CzdosjQNaw7iv2FHNZtWeKnoPuI6lnryGHj9ziK4gU G23Ue01LNCLtmW0oLNGlb2dqpTTfwtw/ikfoTj0jtUA1fiXJU0NCh1QNxizQd07L7A6v JID6MXZpyihgR72EOnInz5TYKE/HVjcuFlrqqntUNtSwy6M0vl18ZGAUZ/9g4u7qrSRy NUJg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=znX0quqJuE7Csrf7QSt6rVYpQTsZRZJtRyvUF0fO1ok=; b=Li1ZcSMJX6AJkqGR5u5tSxojXTYK+toGwMNqangg0wz1yliC9d5Fg0lGOHNWmc6bCd PrCY6dY76U3cjiEY2FU8o/h5z/U8A+Lyl/CJDaGIYXg/IFm5GQz1vvqBxQWEhC2X3mkJ bfXyB61+FsPIb251yIa3Ml5js73behK2VHainHy2BWqHNHghIwQM/7foNuT+cMLS1E9v z8Y/Ah5Nbc7rkYPyQgMz4JmYXwy5pGWpVh3QH4vlRp9Vgr9Dm3UPIOk59BlKkliQw3nV olCGMOYSjO7S2ZI5fGbryQnKYpGUGtiT+joPgS34rEe6rDtgFBKWxKxxlTq8cWSBoH7L AqMg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RlKY1XejA3C/DxHbtvKlu/YzKgcaVNKX7KalQ9H9iUciMKAM7Ox9/8OMQFUAKs6QJYv70oFlIxKDd8Yyg== X-Received: by 10.202.114.216 with SMTP id p207mr10653632oic.132.1476077022458; Sun, 09 Oct 2016 22:23:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.102.66 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Oct 2016 22:23:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3d3594c7-337f-202c-1ef7-d2a01326be02-at-mrbrklyn.com> References: <379590c8-ef8e-2e68-0d9b-af92468ef88c-at-mrbrklyn.com> <3d3594c7-337f-202c-1ef7-d2a01326be02-at-mrbrklyn.com> From: Dalton Meyer Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 23:23:41 -0600 Message-ID: To: Ruben Safir Subject: Re: [Learn] [dinosaur] phylogeny tyrannosauroid dinosaurs X-BeenThere: learn-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0027980097==" Errors-To: learn-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Learn"
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In the images of this web page are two images of a Tyrannosaurus rex skull that are labeled. These should help you better understand the paper. http://www.skeletaldrawing.com/anatomy/
All the best, Dalton Meyer
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 10/08/2016 06:08 AM, David Marjanovic wrote: > >> I don't know what ventral and anterior margins are and what angle is > >> being measured. > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> 13) Premaxilla, orientation and shape of anterior margin: smoothly > >> curved and projection posterodorsally, angle between ventral margin of > >> premaxilla and anterior margin is less than 90 degrees (0); smoothly > >> curved and projecting vertically or slightly anterodorsally, angle > >> between ventral margin of premaxilla and anterior margin is equal to or > >> greater than 90 degrees (1); projecting vertically or slightly > >> anterodorsally, with a discrete inflection point between a more vertical > >> ventral portion and a more horizontal dorsal portion (2). ORDERED > >> (Brusatte et al. 2010:13). > > > > "Anterior" is simply "front". "Ventral" is "down" in this and most other > cases: venter = belly. So, the ventral margin of the pmx is the one with > the teeth. You hold a ruler to the front side, another along the toothrow, > and measure the angle between them. > > > > The character could also be worded as "pmx pointed (0); blunt, rounded > (1); rectangular or slightly overhanging (2)", but that wouldn't be precise > enough to deal with borderline cases. (In my work I've encountered lots of > characters that were worded in such imprecise ways, and lots of borderline > cases that were hard to score for such characters.) > > > > > Thanks. Is there a detailed diagram f the Tyrannosaur skull anywhere so > that I can follow this paper better? > > Ruben > > -- > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www. > mrbrklyn.com&d=DQICaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r= > JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=jvWis- > BXL7gkXkO0nXINasK9AGCUDFtIuhkIww1q7_4&s=1JKtyJZRR-kJzeH1nPm_ > LNy9C5zzU1lR8nxcv_E2hDA&e= > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www. > nylxs.com&d=DQICaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r= > JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=jvWis- > BXL7gkXkO0nXINasK9AGCUDFtIuhkIww1q7_4&s=PdywRq- > GIDnG4XpXYhy28wxAVgmpyjwN8SaXnRURKX8&e= - Leadership Development in Free > Software > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2. > mrbrklyn.com_resources&d=DQICaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN > 0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=jvWis- > BXL7gkXkO0nXINasK9AGCUDFtIuhkIww1q7_4&s=mRWgu5SsKtyqp4jAELSIxmCL6UzUqm > RjcZgWmEgD3D0&e= - Unpublished Archive > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www. > coinhangout.com&d=DQICaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r= > JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=jvWis- > BXL7gkXkO0nXINasK9AGCUDFtIuhkIww1q7_4&s=jhfSshZSMp3GTG93Y- > tFdS1hPl33QdFztFV96dhA0h4&e= - coins! > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www. > brooklyn-2Dliving.com&d=DQICaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN > 0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=jvWis- > BXL7gkXkO0nXINasK9AGCUDFtIuhkIww1q7_4&s=dRVmK5fHv6mzvje2Cv3nVuI7jxmBmu > yYLh_-pAWow4Y&e= > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 >
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