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DATE 2024-08-07
FROM Jan Kasprzak
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] reasons for modperl declines?
Hi, Jeff,

I work on a project with more than 1M lines of code in Perl (and mod_perl).
My thoughts:

Jeff Pang wrote:
> For me I run several apps on mod_perl, including a AI prediction app
> which costs heavy CPU/ram. These apps run for long time and behave
> just fine.
>
> Today it sounds very few people use mod_perl for
> development/deployment. I think the main reasons may include,
>
> 1. perl for web development is somewhat out of date
> 2. mp lacks threads support
> 3. lacks a modern framework (rails like)
>
> And others? what's your thought?

I think the main reason is that kids learn Python in kindergarten these days,
and therefore they do not seek a scripting language which is more powerful
(inline regexes, local(), etc.) and in some aspects more regular
(block = scope, oh well) than Python.

The threads/event-driven workflow is a problem, yes. When I wanted to add
events/websockets to the system I work on, I fired up a separate web server
based on Mojolicious instead, just for websockets part of it.

Then I wrote some more Mojolicious apps, and for small systems it works
quite well. _And_ it adds a lot of fun. There are rough edges, and the authors
seem to shift their focus on mojo,js, but it works and it is pleasure to use.

Just my two cents.

-Yenya

--
| Jan "Yenya" Kasprzak |
| https://www.fi.muni.cz/~kas/ GPG: 4096R/A45477D5 |
We all agree on the necessity of compromise. We just can't agree on
when it's necessary to compromise. --Larry Wall
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