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| DATE | 2024-08-08 |
| FROM | Jeff Pang
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] reasons for modperl declines?
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On 2024-08-08 07:26, Jan Kasprzak wrote:
> Hi, Jeff,
>
> I work on a project with more than 1M lines of code in Perl (and
> mod_perl).
> My thoughts:
>
> Jeff Pang wrote:
>> For me I run several apps on mod_perl, including a AI prediction app
>> which costs heavy CPU/ram. These apps run for long time and behave
>> just fine.
>>
>> Today it sounds very few people use mod_perl for
>> development/deployment. I think the main reasons may include,
>>
>> 1. perl for web development is somewhat out of date
>> 2. mp lacks threads support
>> 3. lacks a modern framework (rails like)
>>
>> And others? what's your thought?
>
> I think the main reason is that kids learn Python in kindergarten these
> days,
> and therefore they do not seek a scripting language which is more
> powerful
> (inline regexes, local(), etc.) and in some aspects more regular
> (block = scope, oh well) than Python.
That's a new viewpoint to me. but yes, the language in AI industry today
is primarily python (like tensorflow and pytorch). Many students in
university start their programming from python.
>
> The threads/event-driven workflow is a problem, yes. When I wanted to
> add
> events/websockets to the system I work on, I fired up a separate web
> server
> based on Mojolicious instead, just for websockets part of it.
It's great to see you have Mojo serve for websockets. I once had the
same idea as you, but sorry didn't take into action finally.
>
> Then I wrote some more Mojolicious apps, and for small systems it works
> quite well. _And_ it adds a lot of fun. There are rough edges, and the
> authors
> seem to shift their focus on mojo,js, but it works and it is pleasure
> to use.
>
> Just my two cents.
Thank you.
--
regards,
Jeff Pang
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