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DATE | 2023-08-11 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ms w11 shocker
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from artix forum
Ex (and good friend) of mine who is totally non technical recently got a new job which involved some home working and propriety software. Including Zoom or Teams or similar (can't remember )
After some discussion we agreed that she'd need to start using Windows and also upgrade her 10+ year old laptop. Even though she'd been using Linux (KDE Neon) all this time she had no idea how it worked, It only ever got an update when I rarely visited.
So she buys a cheap laptop with Win 11 pre-installed. As preparation for helping her set it up I installed Win 11 in a VM and then reset it so I could go through the process step by step with her.
While doing the first install, after the spyware nonsense, the first wall I hit was the insistence that you have to use a Microsoft/Outlook account to create a user account! No problem I thought I'll disconnect the VM from the internet. Surely that will work? No. I can't remember the error exactly but pretty sure it had the audacity to say you had to have the internet to setup your computer. Outrageous.
So I did some searching and found a possible solution, among others which involved rescue disks and registry editing or escaping the setup into a command prompt and issuing various commands (too technical for her and I didn't want to mess up her brand new laptop), which I can't believe worked. Use no-at-thankyou.com, any password to log in. An error comes up "Incorrect password used too many times" and windows lets you set up a standard user account (This may have been closed by now?)
So now I help her over the phone (She's a four hour drive away) get to, and through that point, success.
The plan had been I was going to verbally get her to download and run some remote access access software on windows 11. She would start the ssh server on her linux laptop (which thankfully was already set up but not started by default) and I'd transfer all her data to the new laptop by sftp. And also download and setup the software she needed for work. Simple.
Well it should be. Turns out she didn't have a Win 11 Home install. She had a Win 11 Home 'S' install which only lets you install from the windows store. Bit of panic from her (understandably) thinking she's got the wrong laptop.
Quick search and panic over. The "S" part can be removed. "Easily" the page said. "Just click the windows store" they said. Click "Switch out of S mode" they advised.
Except you need a Microsoft account to access the store! I could find no way around this that again didn't involve rescue disks and registry editing so I had to create a throwaway account and talk her through adding it to her user account (all the while mirroring the process on my VM so I could see what she saw, plus I don't know my way around windows).
That done we finally got control of the laptop and I got in and did what needed to be done (and removed the microsoft account)!
Sorry for the long post but I suspect that was a rant that's been waiting for a chance to get out :D Last Edit: Yesterday at 12:40:15 by grippedMore...1 LikesQuote -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
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