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Subject: Re: Human & ape evolution
From: Peter Nyikos
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On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 6:52:41=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, marc verhaegen emerg=
ed from hiding just
long enough to post a few lines that avoid the main point of what he is res=
ponding to.
.
> ... Peter:
> "it seems strange that he is here talking about swamp forests when his bi=
g pitch for BP earlier had them wading in coastal waters for shellfish."
Marc, you are ignoring BP in the few lines you do write below.
> ?? Apparently you haven't even read my view!?=20
You have so many views on so many things, and they are so under-supported,
it's hard to keep track of them all.
In stunning contrast, you are fleeing headlong from innumerable holes Mr. T=
iib and=20
I have poked in various other "views" of yours on this thread. Are you doi=
ng this out of admiration for the way
JTEM is running away from them and insulting people who try to make him dis=
cuss them like a responsible adult?=20
> Please inform properly before talking.=20
If I had, I would have poked holes in these views sooner, rather than here.=
See below.
> Again, for the Xth time, schematically:=20
> 1) Most Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea were *aquarboreal*(google!),=20
Google you spouting more unevidenced information from which Afro-Asian foss=
ils of human
ancestors (Sivapithecus isn't one, even by your standards) are completely m=
issing by your standards?
[Your standards have reassigned all those hominin fossils to the ancestry =
of gorillas and chimps.]
As for Dryopithecus and Oreopithecus and other European apes, where is your=
evidence that they were aquarboreal?
> dispersing mostly in coastal forests (Tethys Ocean -> Tethys Sea etc.) + =
everywhere side-branches inland, of course.=20
No fossils, so your "of course" is empty bravado.
> Diet: mostly fruits etc.? shellfish (+-no brain enlargement!)?? =20
Why the question marks? don't you believe your own hypotheses?=20
> 2) Pliocene Homo followed the Ind.Ocean coastal forests e.g. Java early-P=
leist.
Java was near the end of the line. Where are your examples from elsewhere a=
long the line?
Why would the super-eruption you and JTEM conveniently blame for their lack
bury the whole route but not the Java part, despite your "everywhere side-b=
ranches inland, of course".??
+ frequent shallow-diving for mostly shellfish (H.erectus pachy-osteo-scle=
rosis, brain enlargement, island colonizations etc.), e.g. *shell engraving=
s*: google "Joordens Munro"!
Will I find photos of engravings if I do the googling? That aside...
How is it that you banish Homo naledi to the chimp and gorilla line, but no=
t Homo erectus?=20
There is some speculation that *erectus* and *naledi* are in direct line of=
descent one with the other.
Peter Nyikos
Professor, Dept. of Mathematics -- standard disclaimer--
Univ. of South Carolina in Columbia
http://people.math.sc.edu/nyikos
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