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DATE | 2023-05-14 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] (fwd) Re: Human & ape evolution
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On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 2:44:07=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, marc verhaegen wrote= : > troll:=20
I'm ashamed of you, Marc, calling a Mr. Tiib a "troll" in a post where he is acting in a perfectly reasonable fashion.
He said the following to JTEM, and the behavior he describes is=20 all too typical of JTEM:
> > > > Try to have conversation some time instead of that snipping and=20 > > > > then replying with imbecile noise for to run from actual arguments.= =20 >=20 > > > "actual arguments"??? :-DDD
Your loyalty to JTEM is badly misplaced here.
> troll:=20 > > I explained that we need fossils for to know location, ...=20 >=20 > No, troll, we don't:=20
Yes, Marc, we do, until you post a tremendous array of studies=20 of the environment of Asia and Africa explaining how the comparative anatomy of animals millions of years in the future is foreshadowed by differences in the paleoenvironment of those huge continents. Or ten million years in the future, where DNA is = concerned.
> never heard of comparative biology?? anatomy? DNA? physiology? ...?=20 > https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-up= right-walking-in-early-humans/
Is this your idea of a joke? Can you tell me where in this oft-regurgitated= article of yours any relevance is explained of these things to the Africa v. Asia dispute?= =20
ANYWHERE AT ALL?
Before you answer, take a look at the following excerpt from the article yo= u linked:
"The most intense phase would have occurred later, probably in the early to= middle Pleistocene (1.8 to 0.126 Ma), according to Marc Verhaegen. Therefo= re, Waterside Hypothesis is a more appropriate name."
This seems to badly undermine your assertion.
When I first saw you here in s.b.p. in March, I was very glad, because ther= e had been little activity here at the time you joined, and my scanty memories from s.a.p. of you over the years had been favorable. But now I am coming to think that you are making s.b.p. a worse place than before, and=20 it would be better for everyone if you confined yourself to sci.anthropolog= y.paleo=20 for the rest of 2023.
Peter Nyikos Professor, Dept. of Mathematics -- standard disclaimer-- University of South Carolina http://people.math.sc.edu/nyikos
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