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| DATE | 2023-05-14 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] (fwd) Re: Human & ape evolution
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Subject: Re: Human & ape evolution
From: marc verhaegen
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Xref: panix sci.bio.paleontology:77232
> > > > 1) early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP (hylobatids & Hs still =
are): aquaRboreal (aqua=3Dwater, arbor=3Dtree) vertical waders-climbers in =
swamp forests (+- cf.Nasalis-Rhinopithecus): wading bipedally + climbing ar=
ms overhead in the branches above the water,=20
troll:=20
> > > Where are fossils of those early Miocene (like -22M) hominids?=20
> > Are you really sooo stupid, my lttle boy??=20
> > Why do you need fossils????=20
> > Never heard of comparative anatomy??=20
> > When do you think lesser & great apes split??=20
troll:
> We obviously need fossils=20
Are you really sooo stupid, my lttle boy??=20
Why do you need fossils????=20
Never heard of comparative anatomy??=20
When do you think lesser & great apes split??=20
> > It's really not difficult, even you can understand:=20
> > Hominoidea (vs Cercopithecoidea):=20
> > innovations:=20
> > - Latisternalia: very broad breast-bone & thorax + dorsal (not lateral)=
scapulae for lateral arm movements,=20
> > - centrally-(not dorsally-)placed spine =3D upright,=20
> > - reduction of lumbar vertebrae cf. upright posture,=20
> > - broad pelvis: also lateral leg movements,=20
> > - tail loss (incoporation of coccyx into pelvis bottom): unexpacted in =
purely arboreal tetrapod:=20
> > AFAICS all this can *only* be explained by aquarborealism, don't you th=
ink? :-D=20
> > (cf. also some convergences with Rhinopithecus-Nasalis in mangrove fore=
sts):=20
> > https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-=
upright-walking-in-early-humans/
> I do not see grounds of your "comparative anatomy".=20
Yes, it's obvious you don't see it. :-DDD
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