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| DATE | 2023-05-14 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] (fwd) Re: Human & ape evolution
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Subject: Re: Human & ape evolution
From: marc verhaegen
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> > 1) early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP (hylobatids & Hs still are)=
: aquaRboreal (aqua=3Dwater, arbor=3Dtree) vertical waders-climbers in swam=
p forests (+- cf.Nasalis-Rhinopithecus): wading bipedally + climbing arms o=
verhead in the branches above the water,
troll:
> Where are fossils of those early Miocene (like -22M) hominids?=20
Are you really sooo stupid, my lttle boy??
Why do you need fossils????
Never heard of comparative anatomy??
When do you think lesser & great apes split??
It's really not difficult, even you can understand:
Hominoidea (vs Cercopithecoidea):=20
innovations:
- Latisternalia: very broad breast-bone & thorax + dorsal (not lateral) sca=
pulae for lateral arm movements,
- centrally-(not dorsally-)placed spine =3D upright,
- reduction of lumbar vertebrae cf. upright posture,
- broad pelvis: also lateral leg movements,
- tail loss (incoporation of coccyx into pelvis bottom): unexpacted in pure=
ly arboreal tetrapod:
AFAICS all this can *only* be explained by aquarborealism, don't you think?=
:-D
(cf. also some convergences with Rhinopithecus-Nasalis in mangrove forests)=
:
https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upri=
ght-walking-in-early-humans/
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