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Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ancestry: Why ANONYMOUS testing NOT ALLOWED
?? | | do not mean the "company" anonomyzing the DNA
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Thanks for your response, but I see I need to explain more clearly: I do not mean the "company" anonomyzing the DNA, I mean giving the co. a DNA sample with the subject person NOT GIVING THEIR IDENTITY TO THE COMPANY AT ALL. The biggest danger to letting these co.'s have your DNA is to yourself, your children, grandkids, and all descendents into the future. If they identify some genetic defect, you and all your descendents could be denied employment, health and life and insurance, and more than you can imagine. That is my point. Can you find such a DNA decoding lab or company that will allow anonymous sample submissions ? I understand the answer is NO. That fact alone should tell you something ! If you are aware of any such company, please provide info / link. Thanks ! Gesendet: Samstag, 15. April 2023 um 15:38 Uhr Von: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> An: ruth02-at-web.de Cc: "Ruben Safir" <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>, "Ancestry.com Customer Service" <customersolutions-at-ancestry.com>, "Harmon, Amy" <amy.harmon-at-gmail.com>, "rms" <rms-at-gnu.org>, "Hangout" <hangout-at-nylxs.com> Betreff: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ancestry: Why ANONYMOUS testing NOT ALLOWED ?? I don't know specifically about Ancestry and their terms of service, but many of them do sell your genetic information for "research purposes"! I can tell you this from first hand experience having worked for an advertising company that bought that data for "research" related to marketing. They stopped offering the marketing product that used DNA because it wasn't profitable yet but I'm sure they weren't the only ones who tried it and it will be something the advertising industry will do in the future. As for if its anonymized or not by the companies they may vary but it is used in ways you would not expect reading the terms of service. here is just a few example https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/i-took-a-23andme-dna-test-and-cops-linked-me-to-a-murder/https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/all-in-the-family-dna-investigation/85-179895c9-1b7e-4e93-8ab4-beae25a44a79On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 11:12 AM <ruth02-at-web.de> wrote: > > Ruben, > > my friend in the USA, who also is a friend of your also but I don't see on your forum anymore, told me something about these USA ancestry tests which i don't think are avilable in my country. > > he said that no matter how hard you try, none of these companies will let a person give a sample and have it analyzed on an ANONYMOUS basis. > > In other words, they don't allow giving a sample, paying for the service, but without identifying yourself. > > Now, why is that ?? > > Appreciate any insights you can give. > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2023 um 21:48 Uhr > Von: "Ruben Safir" <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> > An: "Ancestry.com Customer Service" <customersolutions-at-ancestry.com>, "Harmon, Amy" <amy.harmon-at-gmail.com>, "rms" <rms-at-gnu.org>, "Hangout" <hangout-at-nylxs.com> > Betreff: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ancestry > On 1/24/23 17:55, Ancestry.com Customer Service wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > Hangout mailing list > Hangout-at-nylxs.com > http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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Thanks for your response, but I see I need to explain more clearly: I do not mean the "company" anonomyzing the DNA, I mean giving the co. a DNA sample with the subject person NOT GIVING THEIR IDENTITY TO THE COMPANY AT ALL. The biggest danger to letting these co.'s have your DNA is to yourself, your children, grandkids, and all descendents into the future. If they identify some genetic defect, you and all your descendents could be denied employment, health and life and insurance, and more than you can imagine. That is my point. Can you find such a DNA decoding lab or company that will allow anonymous sample submissions ? I understand the answer is NO. That fact alone should tell you something ! If you are aware of any such company, please provide info / link. Thanks ! Gesendet: Samstag, 15. April 2023 um 15:38 Uhr Von: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> An: ruth02-at-web.de Cc: "Ruben Safir" <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>, "Ancestry.com Customer Service" <customersolutions-at-ancestry.com>, "Harmon, Amy" <amy.harmon-at-gmail.com>, "rms" <rms-at-gnu.org>, "Hangout" <hangout-at-nylxs.com> Betreff: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ancestry: Why ANONYMOUS testing NOT ALLOWED ?? I don't know specifically about Ancestry and their terms of service, but many of them do sell your genetic information for "research purposes"! I can tell you this from first hand experience having worked for an advertising company that bought that data for "research" related to marketing. They stopped offering the marketing product that used DNA because it wasn't profitable yet but I'm sure they weren't the only ones who tried it and it will be something the advertising industry will do in the future. As for if its anonymized or not by the companies they may vary but it is used in ways you would not expect reading the terms of service. here is just a few example https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/i-took-a-23andme-dna-test-and-cops-linked-me-to-a-murder/https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/all-in-the-family-dna-investigation/85-179895c9-1b7e-4e93-8ab4-beae25a44a79On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 11:12 AM <ruth02-at-web.de> wrote: > > Ruben, > > my friend in the USA, who also is a friend of your also but I don't see on your forum anymore, told me something about these USA ancestry tests which i don't think are avilable in my country. > > he said that no matter how hard you try, none of these companies will let a person give a sample and have it analyzed on an ANONYMOUS basis. > > In other words, they don't allow giving a sample, paying for the service, but without identifying yourself. > > Now, why is that ?? > > Appreciate any insights you can give. > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2023 um 21:48 Uhr > Von: "Ruben Safir" <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> > An: "Ancestry.com Customer Service" <customersolutions-at-ancestry.com>, "Harmon, Amy" <amy.harmon-at-gmail.com>, "rms" <rms-at-gnu.org>, "Hangout" <hangout-at-nylxs.com> > Betreff: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ancestry > On 1/24/23 17:55, Ancestry.com Customer Service wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > Hangout mailing list > Hangout-at-nylxs.com > http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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