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DATE 2022-12-04
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Microcode Hell
On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 07:13:51AM -0500, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> This is nothing new, I've known about the microcode updates since the
> early 1990's this was a change made to prevent recalls like what had
> to be done in the case of the Intel Pentium 75Mhz due to its math
> coprocessor issues in the first revision.
> This sounds like an Arch issue/oversight; almost all the other
> distributions have had support for this since the early 2000's
>

They've made recent changes in the Kernel to adapt to this, if you read
this through. I find it funny that this is estimated as a 11-14 minute
read...

Nah

It would take more than 2 hour to study this carefully.

>
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 11:31 PM Ruben Safir wrote:
> >
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Microcode
> >
> > wiki.archlinux.org
> > Microcode - ArchWiki
> > 11–14 minutes
> >
> > Processor manufacturers release stability and security updates to the
> > processor microcode. These updates provide bug fixes that can be
> > critical to the stability of your system. Without them, you may
> > experience spurious crashes or unexpected system halts that can be
> > difficult to track down.
> >
> > All users with an AMD or Intel CPU should install the microcode updates
> > to ensure system stability.
> > Loading microcode
> >
> > Microcode updates are usually shipped with the motherboard's firmware
> > and applied during firmware initialization. Since OEMs might not release
> > firmware updates in a timely fashion and old systems do not get new
> > firmware updates at all, the ability to apply CPU microcode updates
> > during boot was added to the Linux kernel. The Linux microcode loader
> > supports three loading methods:
> >
> > Built-in microcode can be compiled into the kernel and then applied
> > by the early loader.
> > Early loading updates the microcode very early during boot, before
> > the initramfs stage, and is preferred over late loading. This is
> > mandatory for CPUs with severe hardware bugs, like the Intel Haswell and
> > Broadwell processor families.
> > Late loading (dangerous) updates the microcode after booting which
> > could be too late since the CPU might have already tried to use a bugged
> > instruction set. Even if already using early loading, late loading can
> > still be used to apply a newer microcode update without needing to reboot.
> >
> > To acquire updated microcode, depending on the processor, install one of
> > the following packages:
> >
> > amd-ucode for AMD processors,
> > intel-ucode for Intel processors.
> >
> > Microcode built in the initramfs
> >
> > Tango-view-fullscreen.pngThis article or section needs
> > expansion.Tango-view-fullscreen.png
> >
> > Reason:
> >
> > This should have a change in structure splitting unified kernel
> > images like the output of dracut or a manually/"voluntarily" generated
> > one and the other images like the default configuration of Booster or
> > mkinitcpio.
> > The introduction does not cover this section.
> >
> > (Discuss in Talk:Microcode)
> >
> > One can prepend the microcode cpio into the initramfs. Some initramfs
> > generators, like dracut (see dracut.conf(5) § DESCRIPTION), do this by
> > default. This makes #Early loading and #Late loading unnecessary.
> > However, Arch Linux defaults to using mkinitcpio to generate its initial
> > ramdisk (initramfs), which does not support this. It does, however,
> > support loading the microcode via a UEFI stub: see #Unified kernel images.
> > Early loading
> >
> > If not compiled into the kernel, microcode must be loaded by the early
> > loader. It can be passed to the loader as part of a unified kernel
> > image, or as an initrd image by your boot loader.
> >
> > Note that because of the wide variability in users' early-boot
> > configuration, microcode updates may not be triggered automatically by
> > Arch's default configuration.
> > Unified kernel images
> >
> > See Unified kernel images for guidance on how to include microcode in
> > single-file images.
> > Initrd images
> >
> > Microcode updates must otherwise be enabled by adding
> > /boot/amd-ucode.img or /boot/intel-ucode.img as the first initrd in the
> > bootloader configuration file. This is before the normal initrd file.
> > See below for instructions for common bootloaders.
> >
> > In the following sections replace cpu_manufacturer with your CPU
> > manufacturer, i.e. amd or intel.
> >
> > Tip: For Arch Linux on a removable drive, which could be run on any of
> > these processors, install both packages and add both microcode files as
> > initrd to the boot loader configuration. Their order does not matter as
> > long as they both are specified before the initramfs image.
> > Enabling early microcode loading in custom kernels
> >
> > In order for early loading to work in custom kernels, "CPU microcode
> > loading support" needs to be compiled into the kernel, not compiled as a
> > module. This will enable the "Early load microcode" prompt which should
> > be set to Y.
> >
> > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=Y
> > CONFIG_MICROCODE=y
> > CONFIG_MICROCODE_INTEL=Y
> > CONFIG_MICROCODE_AMD=y
> >
> > GRUB
> >
> > grub-mkconfig will automatically detect the microcode update and
> > configure GRUB appropriately. After installing the microcode package,
> > regenerate the GRUB configuration to activate loading the microcode
> > update by running:
> >
> > # grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
> >
> > Alternatively, users that manage their GRUB configuration file manually
> > can add /boot/cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img (or /cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img
> > if /boot is a separate partition) as follows:
> >
> > /boot/grub/grub.cfg
> >
> > ...
> > echo 'Loading initial ramdisk'
> > initrd /boot/cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img /boot/initramfs-linux.img
> > ...
> >
> > Repeat it for each menu entry.
> > systemd-boot
> >
> > Use the initrd option to load the microcode, before the initial ramdisk,
> > as follows:
> >
> > /boot/loader/entries/entry.conf
> >
> > title Arch Linux
> > linux /vmlinuz-linux
> > initrd /cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img
> > initrd /initramfs-linux.img
> > ...
> >
> > The latest microcode cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img must be available at
> > boot time in your EFI system partition (ESP). The ESP must be mounted as
> > /boot in order to have the microcode updated every time amd-ucode or
> > intel-ucode is updated. Otherwise, copy /boot/cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img
> > to your ESP at every update of the microcode package.
> > EFISTUB
> >
> > Append two initrd= options:
> >
> > initrd=\cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img initrd=\initramfs-linux.img
> >
> > rEFInd
> >
> > Edit boot options in /boot/refind_linux.conf and add
> > initrd=boot\cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img (or
> > initrd=cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img if /boot is a separate partition) as
> > the first initramfs. For example:
> >
> > "Boot using default options"
> > "root=PARTUUID=XXXXXXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXXXXXXXXX rw add_efi_memmap
> > initrd=boot\cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img initrd=boot\initramfs-%v.img"
> >
> > Tip: Users who previously did not specify an initrd kernel parameter
> > will need to follow the steps described in rEFInd#Configuration to
> > enable passing of multiple initrd parameters.
> >
> > Users employing manual stanzas in esp/EFI/refind/refind.conf to define
> > the kernels should simply add initrd=boot\cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img (or
> > initrd=cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img if /boot is a separate partition) as
> > required to the options line, and not in the main part of the stanza. E.g.:
> >
> > options "root=PARTUUID=XXXXXXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXXXXXXXXX rw
> > add_efi_memmap initrd=boot\cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img"
> >
> > Syslinux
> >
> > Note: There must be no spaces between the cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img and
> > initramfs-linux.img initrd files. The INITRD line must be exactly as
> > illustrated below.
> >
> > Multiple initrd's can be separated by commas in /boot/syslinux/syslinux.cfg:
> >
> > LABEL arch
> > MENU LABEL Arch Linux
> > LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux
> > INITRD ../cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux.img
> > ...
> >
> > LILO
> >
> > LILO and potentially other old bootloaders do not support multiple
> > initrd images. In that case, cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img and
> > initramfs-linux.img will have to be merged into one image.
> >
> > Warning: The merged image must be recreated after each kernel update!
> >
> > Note: The order is important. The original image initramfs-linux.img
> > must be placed after cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img in the resulting image.
> >
> > To merge both images into one image named initramfs-merged.img, the
> > following command can be used:
> >
> > # cat /boot/cpu_manufacturer-ucode.img /boot/initramfs-linux.img >
> > /boot/initramfs-merged.img
> >
> > Now, edit /etc/lilo.conf to load the new image.
> >
> > ...
> > initrd=/boot/initramfs-merged.img
> > ...
> >
> > And run lilo as root:
> >
> > # lilo
> >
> > Late loading
> >
> > Warning: Late microcode loading is considered dangerous, using it on
> > Linux 5.19 will taint the kernel.[1]
> >
> > Late loading of microcode updates happens after the system has booted.
> > It uses files in /usr/lib/firmware/amd-ucode/ and
> > /usr/lib/firmware/intel-ucode/. On Linux 5.19+ late loading requires the
> > kernel to be built with CONFIG_MICROCODE_LATE_LOADING=y.
> >
> > For AMD processors the microcode update files are provided by
> > linux-firmware.
> >
> > For Intel processors no package provides the microcode update files
> > (FS#59841). To use late loading you need to manually extract
> > intel-ucode/ from Intel's provided archive.
> > Enabling late microcode updates
> >
> > Unlike early loading, late loading of microcode updates on Arch Linux
> > are enabled by default using /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/linux-firmware.conf.
> > After boot the file gets parsed by systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service(8) and
> > CPU microcode gets updated.
> >
> > To manually reload the microcode, e.g. after updating the microcode
> > files in /usr/lib/firmware/amd-ucode/ or /usr/lib/firmware/intel-ucode/,
> > run:
> >
> > # echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/microcode/reload
> >
> > This allows to apply newer microcode updates without rebooting the system.
> > Disabling late microcode updates
> >
> > For AMD systems the CPU microcode will get updated even if amd-ucode is
> > not installed since the files in /usr/lib/firmware/amd-ucode/ are
> > provided by the linux-firmware package (FS#59840).
> >
> > For virtual machines and containers (FS#46591) it is not possible to
> > update the CPU microcode, so you may want to disable microcode updates.
> >
> > To disable the dangerous late microcode updates, override the tmpfile
> > /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/linux-firmware.conf that is provided by
> > linux-firmware. It can be done by creating a file with the same filename
> > in /etc/tmpfiles.d/:
> >
> > # ln -s /dev/null /etc/tmpfiles.d/linux-firmware.conf
> >
> > Verifying that microcode got updated on boot
> >
> > Check the kernel messages with journalctl to see if the microcode has
> > been updated:
> >
> > # journalctl -k --grep=microcode
> >
> > On Intel systems one should see something similar to the following on
> > every boot, indicating that microcode is updated very early on:
> >
> > microcode: microcode updated early to revision 0xde, date = 2020-05-18
> > microcode: sig=0x806ec, pf=0x80, revision=0xde
> > microcode: Microcode Update Driver: v2.2.
> >
> > Note: The date displayed does not correspond to the version of the
> > intel-ucode package installed. It does show the last time Intel updated
> > the microcode that corresponds to the specific hardware being updated.
> >
> > It is entirely possible, particularly with newer hardware, that there is
> > no microcode update for the CPU. In that case, the output may look like
> > this:
> >
> > microcode: sig=0x806ec, pf=0x80, revision=0xde
> > microcode: Microcode Update Driver: v2.2.
> >
> > On AMD systems using early loading the output would look something like
> > this:
> >
> > microcode: microcode updated early to new patch_level=0x0700010f
> > microcode: CPU0: patch_level=0x0700010f
> > microcode: CPU1: patch_level=0x0700010f
> > microcode: CPU2: patch_level=0x0700010f
> > microcode: CPU3: patch_level=0x0700010f
> > microcode: Microcode Update Driver: v2.2.
> >
> > On AMD systems using late loading the output will show the version of
> > the old microcode before reloading the microcode and the new one once it
> > is reloaded. It would look something like this:
> >
> > microcode: CPU0: patch_level=0x0700010b
> > microcode: CPU1: patch_level=0x0700010b
> > microcode: CPU2: patch_level=0x0700010b
> > microcode: CPU3: patch_level=0x0700010b
> > microcode: Microcode Update Driver: v2.2.
> > microcode: CPU2: new patch_level=0x0700010f
> > microcode: CPU0: new patch_level=0x0700010f
> > microcode: CPU1: new patch_level=0x0700010f
> > microcode: CPU3: new patch_level=0x0700010f
> > x86/CPU: CPU features have changed after loading microcode, but might
> > not take effect.
> >
> > Which CPUs accept microcode updates
> >
> > Users may consult either Intel own website or Gentoo's wiki on AMD at
> > the following links to see if a particular model is supported:
> >
> > Gentoo:AMD microcode#Specific firmware only.
> > Intel's download center.
> >
> > Detecting available microcode update
> >
> > It is possible to find out if the intel-ucode.img contains a microcode
> > image for the running CPU with iucode-tool.
> >
> > Install intel-ucode (changing initrd is not required for detection)
> > Install iucode-tool
> > Load the cpuid kernel module:
> >
> > # modprobe cpuid
> >
> > Extract microcode image and search it for your cpuid:
> >
> > # bsdtar -Oxf /boot/intel-ucode.img | iucode_tool -tb -lS -
> >
> > If an update is available, it should show up below selected microcodes
> > The microcode might already be in your vendor bios and not show up
> > loading in dmesg. Compare to the current microcode running grep
> > microcode /proc/cpuinfo
> >
> >
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  26. 2022-12-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] turmoil in education
  27. 2022-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] VPN
  28. 2022-12-20 NYOUG <execdir-at-nyoug.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Upcoming Events for Oracle Professionals
  29. 2022-12-20 Numismatic Crime Information Center <doug-at-numismaticcrimes.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] "Numismatic Crimes Escalate During Last
  30. 2022-12-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Messiah Madess
  31. 2022-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Drugs and More drugs and Kickbacks and Scams
  32. 2022-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Drug Discounts for all
  33. 2022-12-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] More Good News
  34. 2022-12-21 Jordan from Masa <masainfo-at-join.masaisrael.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?QmVhY2ggYW5kIFRlYWNoIPCfj5bvuI8r7aC8?=
  35. 2022-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Climate costs in NY Law
  36. 2022-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Mother
  37. 2022-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Cost of lockdowns
  38. 2022-12-27 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] IDAD 2022: Celebrating the freedom to share with
  39. 2022-12-23 From: "Miriam Bastian" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sharing is at the core of the free software
  40. 2022-12-28 From: "Medscape CME & Education" <Medscape-at-mail.medscape.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?What=E2=80=99s_New_in_the_Treatment_?=
  41. 2022-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Spying and Data collection for tickets at
  42. 2022-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Spying and Data collection for tickets at
  43. 2022-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Spyware Pegasus hitting the big time
  44. 2022-12-29 sderrick <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout Need used laptop. To install
  45. 2022-12-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout Need used laptop. To install
  46. 2022-12-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout Need used laptop. To install
  47. 2022-12-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout Need used laptop. To install
  48. 2022-12-30 From: "Geoffrey Knauth, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Your FSF membership will help us build a stronger
  49. 2022-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raul - the talking cat
  50. 2022-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Putting yourself under suspicion for your email
  51. 2022-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Education and Tech
  52. 2022-12-31 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raul - the talking cat
  53. 2022-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raul - the talking cat
  54. 2022-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raul - the talking cat
  55. 2022-12-11 Thomas Krichel <krichel-at-openlib.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Perl veteran interviewed by NY TImes columnist

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