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Dear Ruben Safir,
Microsoft GitHub's announcement of an AI-driven Service as a Software Substitute [(SaaSS)][1] program called Copilot -- which uses machine learning to autocomplete code (even very large portions of code) for developers as they write software -- immediately raised serious questions for the free software movement and our ability to safeguard user and developer freedom. We felt these questions needed to be addressed, as a variety of serious implications were foreseen for the free software community and developers who use GitHub. These inquiries -- and others possibly yet to be discovered -- needed to be reviewed in depth.
[1]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
[In our call for papers][2], we set forth several areas of interest. Most of these areas centered around copyright law, questions of ownership for AI-generated code, and legal impacts for GitHub authors who use a [GNU][3] or other copyleft license(s) for their works. We are pleased to announce the community-provided research into these areas, and much more.
[2]: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/fsf-funded-call-for-white-papers-on-philosophical-and-legal-questions-around-copilot [3]: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/
First, we want to thank everyone who participated by sending in their papers. We received a healthy response of twenty-two papers from members of the community. The papers weighed-in on the multiple areas of interest we had indicated in our announcement. Using an anonymous review process, we concluded there were five papers that would be best suited to inform the community and foster critical conversations to help guide our actions in the search for solutions.
These five submissions are not ranked, and we decided it best to just let the papers speak for themselves. The papers contain opinions with which the Free Software Foundation (FSF) may or may not agree, and any views expressed by the authors do not necessarily represent the FSF. They were selected because we thought they advanced discussion of important questions, and did so clearly. To that end, the FSF is not providing any summaries of the papers or elaborating on our developing positions until we can learn further, through the community, how best to view the situation.
The following papers were selected (alphabetical by title):
### Copilot, copying, commons, community, culture * Robert F.J. Seddon, Honorary Fellow, University of Durham * [PDF][4] * [HTML][5] * [CC BY-ND 4.0][6]
[4]: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/copilot/Copilot-Copying-Commons-Community-Culture.pdf [5]: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/copilot-copying-commons-community-culture [6]: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/
### Copyright implications of the use of code repositories to train a machine learning model * John A. Rothchild, Professor of Law, Wayne State University and Daniel H. Rothchild, PhD candidate, University of California, Berkeley * [PDF][7] * [HTML][8] * [CC BY 4.0][9]
[7]: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/copilot/Copyright-Implications-of-the-Use-of-Code-Repositories-to-Train-a-Machine-Learning-Model.pdf [8]: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/copyright-implications-of-the-use-of-code-repositories-to-train-a-machine-learning-model [9]: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
### If software is my copilot, who programmed my software? * Bradley M. Kuhn, Policy Fellow, Software Freedom Conservancy * [PDF][10] * [HTML][11] * [CC BY-ND 4.0][12]
[10]: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/copilot/if-software-is-my-copilot-who-programmed-my-software.pdf [11]: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/if-software-is-my-copilot-who-programmed-my-software [12]: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/
### Interpreting docstrings without common sense * Darren Abramson, Associate Professor, Dalhousie University and Ali Emami, assistant professor, Brock University * [PDF][13] * [HTML][14] * [CC BY-ND 4.0][15]
[13]: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/copilot/Interpreting-Docstrings-Without-Common-Sense.pdf [14]: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/interpreting-docstrings-without-using-common-sense [15]: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/
### On the nature of AI code copilots * Stuart Fitzpatrick, Doctoral Candidate, Western Sydney University * [PDF][16] * [HTML][17] * [CC BY-SA 4.0][18]
[16]: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/copilot/On_the_nature_of_ai_copilots.pdf [17]: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/on-the-nature-of-ai-code-copilots [18]: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
## What's next?
If this subject is of interest to you, we recommend you read this selection of papers and share your thoughts and feedback. Several of the authors have agreed to participate in follow-up discussions which will be held via [IRC][19], [LibrePlanet Wiki][20], and [LibrePlanet Discuss mailing list][21]. Listed below is the schedule and details for these discussions.
[19]: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/IRC_Help [20]: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Copilot_Watch_Group [21]: https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
### Live events
FSF is planning a series of (now confirmed) live events aimed to generate discussion around the findings. Please consider joining the following events:
* 13:00 EST (19:00 UTC) Thursday, March 3, IRC (`#fsf`), [Q&A with Robert F.J Seddon][22] * 13:00 EST (19:00 UTC) Monday, March 7, IRC (`#fsf`), [general discussion][23]
[22]: https://www.fsf.org/events/copilot-irc-q-a-with-robert-f-j-seddon [23]: https://www.fsf.org/events/join-us-for-a-general-irc-discussion-on-the-papers-selected-as-part-of-our-copilot-call-for-whitepapers
### Discussion on pages
Whether or not you are able to attend any of the live events, we encourage you to contribute to the discussion on the wiki and mailing list. As stakeholders in free software, the preservation of user freedom and copyleft, we would like to engage the community in any possible actions that must be taken.
Thank you!
Craig Topham Copyright & Licensing Associate Free Software Foundation
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Dear Ruben Safir,
Microsoft GitHub's announcement of an AI-driven Service as a Software Substitute (SaaSS) program called Copilot -- which uses machine learning to autocomplete code (even very large portions of code) for developers as they write software -- immediately raised serious questions for the free software movement and our ability to safeguard user and developer freedom. We felt these questions needed to be addressed, as a variety of serious implications were foreseen for the free software community and developers who use GitHub. These inquiries -- and others possibly yet to be discovered -- needed to be reviewed in depth.
In our call for papers, we set forth several areas of interest. Most of these areas centered around copyright law, questions of ownership for AI-generated code, and legal impacts for GitHub authors who use a GNU or other copyleft license(s) for their works. We are pleased to announce the community-provided research into these areas, and much more.
First, we want to thank everyone who participated by sending in their papers. We received a healthy response of twenty-two papers from members of the community. The papers weighed-in on the multiple areas of interest we had indicated in our announcement. Using an anonymous review process, we concluded there were five papers that would be best suited to inform the community and foster critical conversations to help guide our actions in the search for solutions.
These five submissions are not ranked, and we decided it best to just let the papers speak for themselves. The papers contain opinions with which the Free Software Foundation (FSF) may or may not agree, and any views expressed by the authors do not necessarily represent the FSF. They were selected because we thought they advanced discussion of important questions, and did so clearly. To that end, the FSF is not providing any summaries of the papers or elaborating on our developing positions until we can learn further, through the community, how best to view the situation.
The following papers were selected (alphabetical by title):
Copilot, copying, commons, community, culture
Copyright implications of the use of code repositories to train a machine learning model
- John A. Rothchild, Professor of Law, Wayne State University and Daniel H. Rothchild, PhD candidate, University of California, Berkeley
- PDF
- HTML
- CC BY 4.0
If software is my copilot, who programmed my software?
Interpreting docstrings without common sense
- Darren Abramson, Associate Professor, Dalhousie University and Ali Emami, assistant professor, Brock University
- PDF
- HTML
- CC BY-ND 4.0
On the nature of AI code copilots
What's next?
If this subject is of interest to you, we recommend you read this selection of papers and share your thoughts and feedback. Several of the authors have agreed to participate in follow-up discussions which will be held via IRC, LibrePlanet Wiki, and LibrePlanet Discuss mailing list. Listed below is the schedule and details for these discussions.
Live events
FSF is planning a series of (now confirmed) live events aimed to generate discussion around the findings. Please consider joining the following events:
Discussion on pages
Whether or not you are able to attend any of the live events, we encourage you to contribute to the discussion on the wiki and mailing list. As stakeholders in free software, the preservation of user freedom and copyleft, we would like to engage the community in any possible actions that must be taken.
Thank you!
Craig Topham
Copyright & Licensing Associate
Free Software Foundation
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Dear Ruben Safir,
Microsoft GitHub's announcement of an AI-driven Service as a Software Substitute [(SaaSS)][1] program called Copilot -- which uses machine learning to autocomplete code (even very large portions of code) for developers as they write software -- immediately raised serious questions for the free software movement and our ability to safeguard user and developer freedom. We felt these questions needed to be addressed, as a variety of serious implications were foreseen for the free software community and developers who use GitHub. These inquiries -- and others possibly yet to be discovered -- needed to be reviewed in depth.
[1]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
[In our call for papers][2], we set forth several areas of interest. Most of these areas centered around copyright law, questions of ownership for AI-generated code, and legal impacts for GitHub authors who use a [GNU][3] or other copyleft license(s) for their works. We are pleased to announce the community-provided research into these areas, and much more.
[2]: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/fsf-funded-call-for-white-papers-on-philosophical-and-legal-questions-around-copilot [3]: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/
First, we want to thank everyone who participated by sending in their papers. We received a healthy response of twenty-two papers from members of the community. The papers weighed-in on the multiple areas of interest we had indicated in our announcement. Using an anonymous review process, we concluded there were five papers that would be best suited to inform the community and foster critical conversations to help guide our actions in the search for solutions.
These five submissions are not ranked, and we decided it best to just let the papers speak for themselves. The papers contain opinions with which the Free Software Foundation (FSF) may or may not agree, and any views expressed by the authors do not necessarily represent the FSF. They were selected because we thought they advanced discussion of important questions, and did so clearly. To that end, the FSF is not providing any summaries of the papers or elaborating on our developing positions until we can learn further, through the community, how best to view the situation.
The following papers were selected (alphabetical by title):
### Copilot, copying, commons, community, culture * Robert F.J. Seddon, Honorary Fellow, University of Durham * [PDF][4] * [HTML][5] * [CC BY-ND 4.0][6]
[4]: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/copilot/Copilot-Copying-Commons-Community-Culture.pdf [5]: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/copilot-copying-commons-community-culture [6]: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/
### Copyright implications of the use of code repositories to train a machine learning model * John A. Rothchild, Professor of Law, Wayne State University and Daniel H. Rothchild, PhD candidate, University of California, Berkeley * [PDF][7] * [HTML][8] * [CC BY 4.0][9]
[7]: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/copilot/Copyright-Implications-of-the-Use-of-Code-Repositories-to-Train-a-Machine-Learning-Model.pdf [8]: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/copyright-implications-of-the-use-of-code-repositories-to-train-a-machine-learning-model [9]: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
### If software is my copilot, who programmed my software? * Bradley M. Kuhn, Policy Fellow, Software Freedom Conservancy * [PDF][10] * [HTML][11] * [CC BY-ND 4.0][12]
[10]: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/copilot/if-software-is-my-copilot-who-programmed-my-software.pdf [11]: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/if-software-is-my-copilot-who-programmed-my-software [12]: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/
### Interpreting docstrings without common sense * Darren Abramson, Associate Professor, Dalhousie University and Ali Emami, assistant professor, Brock University * [PDF][13] * [HTML][14] * [CC BY-ND 4.0][15]
[13]: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/copilot/Interpreting-Docstrings-Without-Common-Sense.pdf [14]: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/interpreting-docstrings-without-using-common-sense [15]: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/
### On the nature of AI code copilots * Stuart Fitzpatrick, Doctoral Candidate, Western Sydney University * [PDF][16] * [HTML][17] * [CC BY-SA 4.0][18]
[16]: https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/copilot/On_the_nature_of_ai_copilots.pdf [17]: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/on-the-nature-of-ai-code-copilots [18]: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
## What's next?
If this subject is of interest to you, we recommend you read this selection of papers and share your thoughts and feedback. Several of the authors have agreed to participate in follow-up discussions which will be held via [IRC][19], [LibrePlanet Wiki][20], and [LibrePlanet Discuss mailing list][21]. Listed below is the schedule and details for these discussions.
[19]: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/IRC_Help [20]: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Copilot_Watch_Group [21]: https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
### Live events
FSF is planning a series of (now confirmed) live events aimed to generate discussion around the findings. Please consider joining the following events:
* 13:00 EST (19:00 UTC) Thursday, March 3, IRC (`#fsf`), [Q&A with Robert F.J Seddon][22] * 13:00 EST (19:00 UTC) Monday, March 7, IRC (`#fsf`), [general discussion][23]
[22]: https://www.fsf.org/events/copilot-irc-q-a-with-robert-f-j-seddon [23]: https://www.fsf.org/events/join-us-for-a-general-irc-discussion-on-the-papers-selected-as-part-of-our-copilot-call-for-whitepapers
### Discussion on pages
Whether or not you are able to attend any of the live events, we encourage you to contribute to the discussion on the wiki and mailing list. As stakeholders in free software, the preservation of user freedom and copyleft, we would like to engage the community in any possible actions that must be taken.
Thank you!
Craig Topham Copyright & Licensing Associate Free Software Foundation
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Dear Ruben Safir,
Microsoft GitHub's announcement of an AI-driven Service as a Software Substitute (SaaSS) program called Copilot -- which uses machine learning to autocomplete code (even very large portions of code) for developers as they write software -- immediately raised serious questions for the free software movement and our ability to safeguard user and developer freedom. We felt these questions needed to be addressed, as a variety of serious implications were foreseen for the free software community and developers who use GitHub. These inquiries -- and others possibly yet to be discovered -- needed to be reviewed in depth.
In our call for papers, we set forth several areas of interest. Most of these areas centered around copyright law, questions of ownership for AI-generated code, and legal impacts for GitHub authors who use a GNU or other copyleft license(s) for their works. We are pleased to announce the community-provided research into these areas, and much more.
First, we want to thank everyone who participated by sending in their papers. We received a healthy response of twenty-two papers from members of the community. The papers weighed-in on the multiple areas of interest we had indicated in our announcement. Using an anonymous review process, we concluded there were five papers that would be best suited to inform the community and foster critical conversations to help guide our actions in the search for solutions.
These five submissions are not ranked, and we decided it best to just let the papers speak for themselves. The papers contain opinions with which the Free Software Foundation (FSF) may or may not agree, and any views expressed by the authors do not necessarily represent the FSF. They were selected because we thought they advanced discussion of important questions, and did so clearly. To that end, the FSF is not providing any summaries of the papers or elaborating on our developing positions until we can learn further, through the community, how best to view the situation.
The following papers were selected (alphabetical by title):
Copilot, copying, commons, community, culture
Copyright implications of the use of code repositories to train a machine learning model
- John A. Rothchild, Professor of Law, Wayne State University and Daniel H. Rothchild, PhD candidate, University of California, Berkeley
- PDF
- HTML
- CC BY 4.0
If software is my copilot, who programmed my software?
Interpreting docstrings without common sense
- Darren Abramson, Associate Professor, Dalhousie University and Ali Emami, assistant professor, Brock University
- PDF
- HTML
- CC BY-ND 4.0
On the nature of AI code copilots
What's next?
If this subject is of interest to you, we recommend you read this selection of papers and share your thoughts and feedback. Several of the authors have agreed to participate in follow-up discussions which will be held via IRC, LibrePlanet Wiki, and LibrePlanet Discuss mailing list. Listed below is the schedule and details for these discussions.
Live events
FSF is planning a series of (now confirmed) live events aimed to generate discussion around the findings. Please consider joining the following events:
Discussion on pages
Whether or not you are able to attend any of the live events, we encourage you to contribute to the discussion on the wiki and mailing list. As stakeholders in free software, the preservation of user freedom and copyleft, we would like to engage the community in any possible actions that must be taken.
Thank you!
Craig Topham
Copyright & Licensing Associate
Free Software Foundation
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