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DATE | 2021-12-22 |
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raku
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boundary="0000000000002a7b1e05d3bd1446" Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raku X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30rc1 List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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"An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is no equivalent in *any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd, and controlling what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request processing."
Like this? https://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/mod_lua.html
On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 8:45 AM Andr=C3=A9 Warnier (tomcat/perl) .com> wrote:
> On 22.12.2021 13:19, Wes Peng wrote: > > Raku has its own WSGI httpserver? > > > > Yes, as there are several similar things for Apache/perl (such as > Plack/PSGI). > > But these frameworks only do *partially* what mod_perl allows one to do. > > An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is > no equivalent in > *any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd= , > and controlling > what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request > processing. > > This page : https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/handlers/http.html > contains a diagram of all the "phases" which a HTTP request goes through > in Apache httpd. > WSGI/PSGI Frameworks give you access to what happens in the bottom > "response" block. > mod_perl gives you access to what happens in *all* the blocks. > > For many developers, being able to act at the Response stage is enough, > and in such a > case, they will be happy with what a WSGI/PSGI/proxy solution provides. > > However, if you want to do deeper things within Apache httpd (such as for > instance create > your own authentication/authorization mechanism, or creating your own > input/output > filters), and you want to do that using perl as a language, then mod_perl > is your thing. > > > > > > >> Has anyone considered having a mod_raku version of mod_perl? > >> > >> Merry Christmas to all. > >> > >> -Tom > >> > >> > > > >
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"An essential part of mod_perl (and something for whi= ch I believe there is no equivalent in *any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd, = and controlling what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request process= ing."
Like this?
= On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 8:45 AM Andr= =C3=A9 Warnier (tomcat/perl) < aw-at-ice-sa= .com> wrote: gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1= ex">On 22.12.2021 13:19, Wes Peng wrote:
> Raku has its own WSGI httpserver?
>
Yes, as there are several similar things for Apache/perl (such as Plack/PSG= I).
But these frameworks only do *partially* what mod_perl allows one to do. >
An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is n= o equivalent in
*any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd, = and controlling
what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request process= ing.
This page : html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0= /user/handlers/http.html
contains a diagram of all the "phases" which a HTTP request goes = through in Apache httpd.
WSGI/PSGI Frameworks give you access to what happens in the bottom "re= sponse" block.
mod_perl gives you access to what happens in *all* the blocks.
For many developers, being able to act at the Response stage is enough, and= in such a
case, they will be happy with what a WSGI/PSGI/proxy solution provides.
However, if you want to do deeper things within Apache httpd (such as for i= nstance create
your own authentication/authorization mechanism, or creating your own input= /output
filters), and you want to do that using perl as a language, then mod_perl i= s your thing.
>
>
>> Has anyone considered having a mod_raku version of mod_perl?
>>
>> Merry Christmas to all.
>>
>> -Tom
>>
>>
>
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"An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is no equivalent in *any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd, and controlling what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request processing."
Like this? https://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/mod_lua.html
On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 8:45 AM Andr=C3=A9 Warnier (tomcat/perl) .com> wrote:
> On 22.12.2021 13:19, Wes Peng wrote: > > Raku has its own WSGI httpserver? > > > > Yes, as there are several similar things for Apache/perl (such as > Plack/PSGI). > > But these frameworks only do *partially* what mod_perl allows one to do. > > An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is > no equivalent in > *any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd= , > and controlling > what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request > processing. > > This page : https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/handlers/http.html > contains a diagram of all the "phases" which a HTTP request goes through > in Apache httpd. > WSGI/PSGI Frameworks give you access to what happens in the bottom > "response" block. > mod_perl gives you access to what happens in *all* the blocks. > > For many developers, being able to act at the Response stage is enough, > and in such a > case, they will be happy with what a WSGI/PSGI/proxy solution provides. > > However, if you want to do deeper things within Apache httpd (such as for > instance create > your own authentication/authorization mechanism, or creating your own > input/output > filters), and you want to do that using perl as a language, then mod_perl > is your thing. > > > > > > >> Has anyone considered having a mod_raku version of mod_perl? > >> > >> Merry Christmas to all. > >> > >> -Tom > >> > >> > > > >
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"An essential part of mod_perl (and something for whi= ch I believe there is no equivalent in *any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd, = and controlling what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request process= ing."
Like this?
= On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 8:45 AM Andr= =C3=A9 Warnier (tomcat/perl) < aw-at-ice-sa= .com> wrote: gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1= ex">On 22.12.2021 13:19, Wes Peng wrote:
> Raku has its own WSGI httpserver?
>
Yes, as there are several similar things for Apache/perl (such as Plack/PSG= I).
But these frameworks only do *partially* what mod_perl allows one to do. >
An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is n= o equivalent in
*any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd, = and controlling
what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request process= ing.
This page : html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0= /user/handlers/http.html
contains a diagram of all the "phases" which a HTTP request goes = through in Apache httpd.
WSGI/PSGI Frameworks give you access to what happens in the bottom "re= sponse" block.
mod_perl gives you access to what happens in *all* the blocks.
For many developers, being able to act at the Response stage is enough, and= in such a
case, they will be happy with what a WSGI/PSGI/proxy solution provides.
However, if you want to do deeper things within Apache httpd (such as for i= nstance create
your own authentication/authorization mechanism, or creating your own input= /output
filters), and you want to do that using perl as a language, then mod_perl i= s your thing.
>
>
>> Has anyone considered having a mod_raku version of mod_perl?
>>
>> Merry Christmas to all.
>>
>> -Tom
>>
>>
>
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