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DATE 2021-11-16
FROM Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Update blocked by trend micro
Do you have anything other than vague claims of guruship to back that up?

I've worked with several brands of security software (including supporting
some of them in corporate environments) and they all have their strengths
and weaknesses. I've used TrendMicro, and don't remember anything
distinctive about the brand.

I've seen what happens when some idiot turns off their security software,
and I've had to sort out the resultant mess. These days admins prevent
users turning off their security software thank goodness.

What exactly do you have against security software?

Cliff

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 3:44 AM Ruben Safir wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 11:37:09PM +0100, Michael Schumacher via
> gimp-user-list wrote:
> > On 15.11.21 22:55, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >
> > >On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 09:31:20PM +0100, Jernej Simončič wrote:
> > >>On Monday, November 15, 2021, 13:31:01, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>In the last 40 years in the GNU field I have heard a lot of bad advise
> > >>>but rarely as bad as this. Ignore this advise by Rick Strong and
> > >>>ditch tend micro - ASAP.
> > >>
> > >>I kind of doubt that TrendMicro is the problem,
> > >
> > >Set aside with the doubts because they ARE the problem
> >
> > Ruben, I am pretty sure that the core issue in this thread is experience.
> >
>
>
> No - but I have the experience and you do not.
>
> The core issue is that trendmicro is not a reliable source of
> security and is a bad actor.
>
> Nothing fixes that.
>
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