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DATE | 2021-10-22 |
FROM | Cliff Pratt
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop
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No. 1) I open GIMP 2) The font size as I see it is 80pts. 3) I change it to 100. 4) I exit. 5) I reopen GIMP. 6) The font size is 100.
??????
Cliff
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 2:58 PM Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:36:15AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote: > > > > > The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the root cause > > > is people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my own > > > satisfaction) quite a lot of fiddling with the tool + its options, and > > > I've been able to reproduce all the issues that I've seen reported. As > > > far as I can recall the issue was that the users were trying to change > > > things in two places, in the on screen editor, and in the tool > > > options. Changes in the on screen editor only apply to that box. > > > Changes to the tool options apply to either the current box or the > > > next box created. Changes to the current box are never (so far as I > > > can make out) applied to the tool options. There is no hidden default. > > > The tool options can be changed and are saved between sessions and the > > > next time you open GIMP they will be the same as they were when you > > > last shut down. > > > > > > Cliff > > > > I wish that were true, but I've had to expand the size of the font from > > invisible to 100 points or more for every box of text I've used to add > > captions or labels to a picture for at least 20 years. If its a tool > > option, tell me please how to set it so its big enough to be read by > > default. I ATM, have whatever version is std for debian stretch. > > > > > It is not a tools option problem > > It is just broken. Everytime I use it it defaults to 62pts and it > refuses to change. > > It is just broken > > It didn't used to be. > > > -- > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > > - Louis D. Brandeis > > Genes Web page > > _______________________________________________ > > gimp-user-list mailing list > > List address: gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org > > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > > -- > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > http://www.mrbrklyn.com > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > http://www.brooklyn-living.com > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > > _______________________________________________ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address: gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list >
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No.=C2=A0 1) I open GIMP 2) The font size as= I see it is 80pts. 3) I change it to 100. 4) I exit.= div> 5) I reopen GIMP. 6) The font size is 100. >
??????
Cliff =3D"gmail_quote"> =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:36:15AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wro= te:
>
> > The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the= root cause
> > is people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my ow= n
> > satisfaction) quite a lot of fiddling with the tool + its options= , and
> > I've been able to reproduce all the issues that I've seen= reported. As
> > far as I can recall the issue was that the users were trying to c= hange
> > things in two places, in the on screen editor, and in the tool > > > options. Changes in the on screen editor only apply to that box.<= br> > > Changes to the tool options apply to either the current box or th= e
> > next box created. Changes to the current box are never (so far as= I
> > can make out) applied to the tool options. There is no hidden def= ault.
> > The tool options can be changed and are saved between sessions an= d the
> > next time you open GIMP they will be the same as they were when y= ou
> > last shut down.
> >
> > Cliff
>
> I wish that were true, but I've had to expand the size of the font= from
> invisible to 100 points or more for every box of text I've used to= add
> captions or labels to a picture for at least 20 years. If its a tool <= br> > option, tell me please how to set it so its big enough to be read by <= br> > default. I ATM, have whatever version is std for debian stretch.
>
It is not a tools option problem
It is just broken.=C2=A0 Everytime I use it it defaults to 62pts and it
refuses to change.
It is just broken
It didn't used to be.
> --
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>=C2=A0 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectab= le.
>=C2=A0 - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page <=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>= ;
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> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:36:15AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote: > > > > > The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the root cause > > > is people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my own > > > satisfaction) quite a lot of fiddling with the tool + its options, and > > > I've been able to reproduce all the issues that I've seen reported. As > > > far as I can recall the issue was that the users were trying to change > > > things in two places, in the on screen editor, and in the tool > > > options. Changes in the on screen editor only apply to that box. > > > Changes to the tool options apply to either the current box or the > > > next box created. Changes to the current box are never (so far as I > > > can make out) applied to the tool options. There is no hidden default. > > > The tool options can be changed and are saved between sessions and the > > > next time you open GIMP they will be the same as they were when you > > > last shut down. > > > > > > Cliff > > > > I wish that were true, but I've had to expand the size of the font from > > invisible to 100 points or more for every box of text I've used to add > > captions or labels to a picture for at least 20 years. If its a tool > > option, tell me please how to set it so its big enough to be read by > > default. I ATM, have whatever version is std for debian stretch. > > > > > It is not a tools option problem > > It is just broken. Everytime I use it it defaults to 62pts and it > refuses to change. > > It is just broken > > It didn't used to be. > > > -- > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > > - Louis D. Brandeis > > Genes Web page > > _______________________________________________ > > gimp-user-list mailing list > > List address: gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org > > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > > -- > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > http://www.mrbrklyn.com > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > http://www.brooklyn-living.com > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > > _______________________________________________ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address: gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list >
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No.=C2=A0 1) I open GIMP 2) The font size as= I see it is 80pts. 3) I change it to 100. 4) I exit.= div> 5) I reopen GIMP. 6) The font size is 100. >
??????
Cliff =3D"gmail_quote"> =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:36:15AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wro= te:
>
> > The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the= root cause
> > is people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my ow= n
> > satisfaction) quite a lot of fiddling with the tool + its options= , and
> > I've been able to reproduce all the issues that I've seen= reported. As
> > far as I can recall the issue was that the users were trying to c= hange
> > things in two places, in the on screen editor, and in the tool > > > options. Changes in the on screen editor only apply to that box.<= br> > > Changes to the tool options apply to either the current box or th= e
> > next box created. Changes to the current box are never (so far as= I
> > can make out) applied to the tool options. There is no hidden def= ault.
> > The tool options can be changed and are saved between sessions an= d the
> > next time you open GIMP they will be the same as they were when y= ou
> > last shut down.
> >
> > Cliff
>
> I wish that were true, but I've had to expand the size of the font= from
> invisible to 100 points or more for every box of text I've used to= add
> captions or labels to a picture for at least 20 years. If its a tool <= br> > option, tell me please how to set it so its big enough to be read by <= br> > default. I ATM, have whatever version is std for debian stretch.
>
It is not a tools option problem
It is just broken.=C2=A0 Everytime I use it it defaults to 62pts and it
refuses to change.
It is just broken
It didn't used to be.
> --
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>=C2=A0 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectab= le.
>=C2=A0 - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page <=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>= ;
> _______________________________________________
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> List membership: mp-user-list" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://mail.gnome.org/m= ailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
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that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
ht= tp://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http:= //www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
"_blank">http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
ank">http://www.brooklyn-living.com
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but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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