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| DATE | 2021-03-18 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What would a mod_perl EOL look like?
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On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 02:46:19PM -0400, Jim Albert wrote:
> OK... last email on this topic.
> I feel like I'm getting replies like I'm from another planet for
> asking prudent questions.
> If others want to keep their heads in the sand and get a huge
> surprise someday when a Perl update or a new version of Apache they
> just installed breaks mod_perl or there's a vulnerability that
> requires a fix and there's no one to fix... go ahead and roll your
> dice... it's your party.
You are not understanding. We've been at this for several decades so...
you know we aren't idiots.
>
> If you care at all about your software environment you should want
> to have an understanding of when you need to look for a replacement
> and when a product hits EOL.
Um - you have worked for cooperate too long and fail to understand
anything outside of that context.
There is no EOL
Although the internet itself is quickly becoming irrelevant.
Free Software is allowed to work effectively as long as someone finds it
useful. mod_perl actually, already has issues compiling with the latest
apache. That is something that can be looked at. Nothing forces you to
use Apache 2.4 or whatever they are up to.
BTW - Cobol is still around and I still your my Princess AT&T Bell
phone. And my refrigerator is likely older than you. I ride my trek
2000 bicycle. Not everything has build in obsolescence.
It modperl stops working, for some reason, I will not be able to
reproduce the thousands of messges and web pages on my system that is
build about it. So I didn't depend on fly by night software.
> No, I don't want to look for a
> replacement, but I do want to have an understanding of when to
> recognize when that is going to be a necessity given a software
> package's managed lifecycle. Perhaps others here are still looking
> for devices to play their 1970s 8-track tapes?
>
> For anyone who actually does care given Adam's direction to the
> attic description at https://attic.apache.org/.
> If mod_perl hits The Apache Attic, I consider that fair warning. I
> don't think that 100% indicates an absolute final nail, but
> reasonable fair warning. I appreciate the responses of those that
> have lead me to that information.
>
> Jim
>
> On 3/18/2021 2:14 PM, Michel Jansen wrote:
> >Hi there,
> >
> >If it broken it doesnt have to be fixed. Our purchase system is running almost 20 years on modperl and there is no reason for is to stop this. We are very happy with it. How about that?
> >
> >Michel Jansen
> >
> >>Op 18 mrt. 2021 om 17:48 heeft adam.prime-at-utoronto.ca het volgende geschreven:
> >>
> >>If you go back to Sander's original email, he outlines what will happen if we can't staff the PMC sufficiently to meet Apache's guidelines. The project woudl go to the attic[1]. There are lots of projects in the Attic. Some of them have been forked and continue to have development done on them. At any rate, there will be some notice, though probably not years of notice, and the source code absolutely will not 'suddenly disappear'. I'd suggest following the link below and reading about what the attic is, and what it would mean to get more context if you're interested in more detail.
> >>
> >>Adam
> >>
> >>[1] http://attic.apache.org/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Quoting Jim Albert :
> >>
> >>>When mod_perl does come to an end what would an End of Life look like?
> >>>I'm told mod_perl is an Apache Software Foundation project. Do Apache
> >>>Software Foundation projects have a structured life cycle or do some
> >>>just suddenly disappear with no warning given various situations that
> >>>result in the need for EOL?
> >>>
> >>>Jim
> >>
> >>
>
>
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