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DATE 2021-03-09
FROM From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?=
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New Windows mod_perl2/libapreq2 build
Many thanks.
Nowadays, we tend to deal increasingly with Linux servers rather than Win32/64, but it is
nice anyway that someone cares for this, as we still have some customers with legacy Win
servers that they want to keep and update from time to time.
(And it is also nice for our development/support workstations).

We have quite a few real-world applications based on perl and mod_perl, which in
themselves have been running reliably for years without any needed changes due to perl itself.
But we do get in trouble from time to time because customers insist on changing the
platform on which these applications are running.

By the way, and in the somewhat OT gist of the discussions about perl's evolution, I feel
that there is one argument about perl that is being consistently overlooked and/or
undervalued :
The fact that applications written in perl many years ago (as much as 20 years sometimes),
are still running unchanged today, despite numerous changes of versions, platforms, OS'es
etc.. (*)
I do not think that there is *any* other current programming language (or "framework")
which equals that record.

This may sound a bit like a "dinosaur" argument, but just think of all the time and
resources (and thus ultimately, money) which people programming in other languages have
had to spend during the same period, just to keep the same things running, and you can get
a measure of perl's "productivity" in comparison.

I totally understand the desire of some to modernise perl and make it more attractive to
new generations of programmers. But it would be a shame if in the process, perl (5,7) lost
this rather unique quality and positioning.

P.S. And of course, that longevity and stability of perl, is all to the credit of people
like you, who have been supporting and maintaining it over the years, for (in my view)
much too little public recognition and reward in the end.

(*) a bit more on topic : the most "traumatic" events in those many years as far as our
perl programming was concerned, have been the changes from Apache 1.x to 2.0, and later
the changes from 2.2 to 2.4 in terms of AAA. (So, not in perl itself, but in the way it
interacts with Apache).
I think that nothing else really "registered", even over many OSes such as all the
versions of Windows-es, SunOS, Solaris, HP/UX, AIX, Unix-es, Linux, to name only the few
which I remember running our applications on. Applications of which we only ever needed
one version, running everywhere.

On 05.03.2021 13:12, Steve Hay wrote:
> For those who are interested, I have uploaded a 64-bit build of
> mod_perl-2.0.11 and libapreq2-2.15 components compatible with Apache
> Lounge 2.4.46 (Win64, VC16, built 18 February 2021) and Strawberry
> Perl 5.32.1.1 (64bit).
>
> You can download it from: https://people.apache.org/~stevehay/
>
> The SHA1 digest is: 33e231eb91901007e25fd78eb5643901672c519b
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>
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  108. 2021-03-25 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl
  109. 2021-03-22 jorton-at-apache.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ANNOUNCE] libapreq2-2.16 Released
  110. 2021-03-23 Chris <cpb_mod_perl-at-bennettconstruction.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl
  111. 2021-03-29 ryan lague via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] (no subject)
  112. 2021-03-29 Marco Ciampa via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] (no subject)
  113. 2021-03-28 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Add traditional Linux Builds
  114. 2021-03-28 Bill Rich via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Add traditional Linux Builds
  115. 2021-03-26 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  116. 2021-03-26 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  117. 2021-03-26 Tom via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  118. 2021-03-26 From: =?utf-8?q?Zolt=C3=A1n_Kluik_via_gimp-user-list?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  119. 2021-03-26 From: =?utf-8?q?Zolt=C3=A1n_Kluik_via_gimp-user-list?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  120. 2021-03-26 Paula Koval via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Mixing type fonts or sizes on the
  121. 2021-03-25 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  122. 2021-03-25 Tom via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  123. 2021-03-25 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  124. 2021-03-25 From: =?utf-8?q?Zolt=C3=A1n_Kluik_via_gimp-user-list?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  125. 2021-03-25 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  126. 2021-03-25 From: =?utf-8?q?Zolt=C3=A1n_Kluik_via_gimp-user-list?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  127. 2021-03-23 Jay Smith <jay-at-JaySmith.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  128. 2021-03-26 From: =?utf-8?q?Zolt=C3=A1n_Kluik_via_gimp-user-list?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  129. 2021-03-23 From: =?utf-8?q?Zolt=C3=A1n_Kluik_via_gimp-user-list?= Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with
  130. 2021-03-23 From: =?utf-8?q?Zolt=C3=A1n_Kluik_via_gimp-user-list?= Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Change background colour with GIMP
  131. 2021-03-30 Mostafa Ahangarha <ahangarha-at-riseup.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health:
  132. 2021-03-30 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] WebDAV#Configuring_the_client at
  133. 2021-03-30 Edgar Hagenbichler <edgar.hagenbichler-at-hagenbichler.at> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] WebDAV#Configuring_the_client at
  134. 2021-03-30 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health:
  135. 2021-03-30 ronald munjoma <simbiso-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] online seminar GNU Health:
  136. 2021-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FSF has gone off the rail
  137. 2021-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Privacy Wars heat up
  138. 2021-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] deadly subjects
  139. 2021-03-31 From: "PSSNY" <staff-at-pssny.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] URGENT! Call Your Lawmakers NOW to Oppose Delay
  140. 2021-03-31 facebook <facebook-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the new book burning
  141. 2021-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vaccination Passport craziness
  142. 2021-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Vaccination Passport craziness
  143. 2021-03-30 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] (no subject)
  144. 2021-03-30 ryan lague via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] (no subject)
  145. 2021-03-30 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] (no subject)
  146. 2021-03-30 Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Mixing type fonts or sizes on the
  147. 2021-03-25 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl
  148. 2021-03-22 jorton-at-apache.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ANNOUNCE] libapreq2-2.16 Released
  149. 2021-03-23 Chris <cpb_mod_perl-at-bennettconstruction.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl
  150. 2021-03-19 Gazzali Jaleel <bac2bac-at-bac2bac.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving ExecCGI to mod_perl - performance and
  151. 2021-03-20 Philippe Chiasson <gozer-at-ectoplasm.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl
  152. 2021-03-23 John Dunlap <John-at-lariat.co> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl
  153. 2021-03-18 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ned=C5=BEad_Hrnjica?= <nedzad-at-nedzadhrnjica.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl
  154. 2021-03-19 Matthias Schmitt <matthias.schmitt-at-mmp.lu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl
  155. 2021-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What would a mod_perl EOL look like?
  156. 2021-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What would a mod_perl EOL look like?
  157. 2021-03-18 Michel Jansen <mailmaster-at-web-ict.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl
  158. 2021-03-18 Michel Jansen <mailmaster-at-web-ict.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What would a mod_perl EOL look like?
  159. 2021-03-18 Jim Albert <jim-at-netrition.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What would a mod_perl EOL look like?
  160. 2021-03-18 Michel Jansen <mailmaster-at-web-ict.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What would a mod_perl EOL look like?
  161. 2021-03-18 Jim Albert <jim-at-netrition.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What would a mod_perl EOL look like?
  162. 2021-03-18 adam.prime-at-utoronto.ca Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What would a mod_perl EOL look like?
  163. 2021-03-18 Jim Albert <jim-at-netrition.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What would a mod_perl EOL look like?
  164. 2021-03-30 bulk 88 <bulk88-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] NYPM covid meeting

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