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Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] CFP NY.PM Technical Meetup
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Tie::IxHash is super useful for ordered sets
Tie::RedisDB, albeit mere syntactic sugar around yet another data store
API, makes working with Mongo Couch etc... very uniform.
Maybe it's just me, but programming in perl has the primary motivator of
working with hashes inherent syntactically; thus the Tie interface is
simply a natural extension of high level abstraction.
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:34 PM Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 12/23/20 10:18 PM, Jacob Salomon wrote:
> >
> > Another question that has bothered me is how to access binary data
> > within a buffer. For example, a data page in a database like Informix
> > or Oracle has a section of header information - a structure with binary
> > data and bit flags - and a set of pointers to individual rows within the
> > page. Fairly easy in C but how to access all that in Perl and leave it
> > binary? I think PDL is another class (using the term loosely; not as an
> > OO construct) of such access methods within binary data.
>
>
> That is an entirely different problem and that API is accessable because
> those databases make it so. Oracle drives me crazy with that complexity
> and it doesn't speed things up. The database engine is the database
> engine. The C APIs for Oracle and Informeix is, in theory at least,
> wholely available to Perl through DBI assuming someone wrote the
> interface into the perl specific DBD. It it is available in C, it is at
> least in theory available in Perl.
>
> --
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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Thanks for your time,
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Tie::IxHash is super useful for ordered sets Tie::Redi=
sDB, albeit mere syntactic sugar around yet another data store API, makes w=
orking with Mongo Couch etc... very uniform. Maybe it's just =
me, but programming in perl has the primary motivator of working with hashe=
s inherent syntactically; thus the Tie interface is simply a natural extens=
ion of high level abstraction.
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:34 PM Ruben =
Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> =
wrote:
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 12/23/=
20 10:18 PM, Jacob Salomon wrote:
>
> Another question that has bothered me is how to access binary data
> within a buffer.=C2=A0 For example, a data page in a database like Inf=
ormix
> or Oracle has a section of header information - a structure with binar=
y
> data and bit flags - and a set of pointers to individual rows within t=
he
> page.=C2=A0 Fairly easy in C but how to access all that in Perl and le=
ave it
> binary?=C2=A0 I think PDL is another class (using the term loosely; no=
t as an
> OO construct) of such access methods within binary data.
That is an entirely different problem and that API is accessable because>
those databases make it so.=C2=A0 Oracle drives me crazy with that complexi=
ty
and it doesn't speed things up.=C2=A0 The database engine is the databa=
se
engine.=C2=A0 The C APIs for Oracle and Informeix is, in theory at least,r>
wholely available to Perl through DBI assuming someone wrote the
interface into the perl specific DBD.=C2=A0 It it is available in C, it is =
at
least in theory available in Perl.
--
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that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
ht=
tp://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http:=
//www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
ank">http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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Tie::IxHash is super useful for ordered sets
Tie::RedisDB, albeit mere syntactic sugar around yet another data store
API, makes working with Mongo Couch etc... very uniform.
Maybe it's just me, but programming in perl has the primary motivator of
working with hashes inherent syntactically; thus the Tie interface is
simply a natural extension of high level abstraction.
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:34 PM Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 12/23/20 10:18 PM, Jacob Salomon wrote:
> >
> > Another question that has bothered me is how to access binary data
> > within a buffer. For example, a data page in a database like Informix
> > or Oracle has a section of header information - a structure with binary
> > data and bit flags - and a set of pointers to individual rows within the
> > page. Fairly easy in C but how to access all that in Perl and leave it
> > binary? I think PDL is another class (using the term loosely; not as an
> > OO construct) of such access methods within binary data.
>
>
> That is an entirely different problem and that API is accessable because
> those databases make it so. Oracle drives me crazy with that complexity
> and it doesn't speed things up. The database engine is the database
> engine. The C APIs for Oracle and Informeix is, in theory at least,
> wholely available to Perl through DBI assuming someone wrote the
> interface into the perl specific DBD. It it is available in C, it is at
> least in theory available in Perl.
>
> --
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>
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Thanks for your time,
-Nathaniel
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Tie::IxHash is super useful for ordered sets Tie::Redi=
sDB, albeit mere syntactic sugar around yet another data store API, makes w=
orking with Mongo Couch etc... very uniform. Maybe it's just =
me, but programming in perl has the primary motivator of working with hashe=
s inherent syntactically; thus the Tie interface is simply a natural extens=
ion of high level abstraction.
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:34 PM Ruben =
Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> =
wrote:
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 12/23/=
20 10:18 PM, Jacob Salomon wrote:
>
> Another question that has bothered me is how to access binary data
> within a buffer.=C2=A0 For example, a data page in a database like Inf=
ormix
> or Oracle has a section of header information - a structure with binar=
y
> data and bit flags - and a set of pointers to individual rows within t=
he
> page.=C2=A0 Fairly easy in C but how to access all that in Perl and le=
ave it
> binary?=C2=A0 I think PDL is another class (using the term loosely; no=
t as an
> OO construct) of such access methods within binary data.
That is an entirely different problem and that API is accessable because>
those databases make it so.=C2=A0 Oracle drives me crazy with that complexi=
ty
and it doesn't speed things up.=C2=A0 The database engine is the databa=
se
engine.=C2=A0 The C APIs for Oracle and Informeix is, in theory at least,r>
wholely available to Perl through DBI assuming someone wrote the
interface into the perl specific DBD.=C2=A0 It it is available in C, it is =
at
least in theory available in Perl.
--
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that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
ht=
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DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http:=
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