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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 11:28:49 -0600
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Just curious where exactly is the challenge in this setup ? It can't be in
apache supporting real certificates - neither can it be in setting up
reverse proxy internally...
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 11:19 AM Tom Browder wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 09:33 Steven Lembark wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 18:05:28 -0700
>> jbiskofski wrote:
>>
>> > I had a hard time accepting this was a good configuration because for
>> > 20 years I had thought of webservers as big giant compiled systems
>> > (apache), but apparently you can now create something just as fast in
>> > Perl.
>>
>> And a helluva lot easier to install, manage, develop on, and maintain.
>
>
> Steven, I have met you at a couple of Perl conferences and know you know
> Raku as well. One thing that has always bothered me about PSGI, Catalyst,
> mod_fcgi, etc., is that I could never find a practical cookbook solution
> for a simple but working dynamic and publicly available https website on a
> real, modern Apache 2.4 server on a Linux bare-metal, sole user remote
> server.
>
> I would love to be able to have something similar for Raku, and there is
> Cro, but it so far cannot handle auto-generation of Let's Encrypt TLS
> certificates with a reverse proxy on Apache.
>
> As an alternative, I would be happy to run with a Perl solution iif it
> could handle my TLS requirement. Any suggestions will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> BTW, I have publicly documented my current Apache setup (non-dynamic
> except for limited CGI use on a couple of sites). The Apache uses nearly
> the latest Apache and OpenSSL compiled from source. It includes multiple
> (15 or so at last count) virtual hosts (using macros for extremely easy
> deployment). It was last updated mid-2020 and I'll be looking to update it
> next year. It's on Github and I'll send the reference if anyone wants it.
>
> Blessings,
>
> -Tom
>
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Just curious where exactly is the challenge in this setup =
? It can't be in apache supporting real certificates - neither can it b=
e in setting up reverse proxy internally...
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, 4 Aug 2020 18:05:28 -0700
jbiskofski <jb=
iskofski-at-gmail.com> wrote:
> I had a hard time accepting this was a good configuration because for<=
br>
> 20 years I had thought of webservers as big giant compiled systems
> (apache), but apparently you can now create something just as fast in<=
br>
> Perl.
And a helluva lot easier to install, manage, develop on, and maintain.ckquote>
Steven, =C2=A0I have =
met you at a couple of Perl conferences and know you know Raku as well. One=
thing that has always bothered me about PSGI, Catalyst, mod_fcgi, etc., is=
that I could never find a practical cookbook solution for a simple but wor=
king dynamic and publicly available https website on a real, modern Apache =
2.4 server on a Linux bare-metal, sole user remote server. "auto">
I would love to be able to have somethin=
g similar for Raku, and there is Cro, but it so far cannot handle auto-gene=
ration of Let's Encrypt TLS certificates with a reverse proxy on Apache=
.
As an alternative, I w=
ould be happy to run with a Perl solution iif it could handle my TLS requir=
ement. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. =
BTW, I have publicly documented my current Apac=
he setup (non-dynamic except for limited CGI use on a couple of sites). The=
Apache uses nearly the latest Apache and OpenSSL compiled from source. It =
includes multiple (15 or so at last count) virtual hosts (using macros for =
extremely easy deployment). It was last updated mid-2020 and I'll be lo=
oking to update it next year. It's on Github and I'll send the refe=
rence if anyone wants it.
">Blessings,
-Tom <=
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Just curious where exactly is the challenge in this setup ? It can't be in
apache supporting real certificates - neither can it be in setting up
reverse proxy internally...
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 11:19 AM Tom Browder wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 09:33 Steven Lembark wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 18:05:28 -0700
>> jbiskofski wrote:
>>
>> > I had a hard time accepting this was a good configuration because for
>> > 20 years I had thought of webservers as big giant compiled systems
>> > (apache), but apparently you can now create something just as fast in
>> > Perl.
>>
>> And a helluva lot easier to install, manage, develop on, and maintain.
>
>
> Steven, I have met you at a couple of Perl conferences and know you know
> Raku as well. One thing that has always bothered me about PSGI, Catalyst,
> mod_fcgi, etc., is that I could never find a practical cookbook solution
> for a simple but working dynamic and publicly available https website on a
> real, modern Apache 2.4 server on a Linux bare-metal, sole user remote
> server.
>
> I would love to be able to have something similar for Raku, and there is
> Cro, but it so far cannot handle auto-generation of Let's Encrypt TLS
> certificates with a reverse proxy on Apache.
>
> As an alternative, I would be happy to run with a Perl solution iif it
> could handle my TLS requirement. Any suggestions will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> BTW, I have publicly documented my current Apache setup (non-dynamic
> except for limited CGI use on a couple of sites). The Apache uses nearly
> the latest Apache and OpenSSL compiled from source. It includes multiple
> (15 or so at last count) virtual hosts (using macros for extremely easy
> deployment). It was last updated mid-2020 and I'll be looking to update it
> next year. It's on Github and I'll send the reference if anyone wants it.
>
> Blessings,
>
> -Tom
>
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Just curious where exactly is the challenge in this setup =
? It can't be in apache supporting real certificates - neither can it b=
e in setting up reverse proxy internally...
ote"> gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex">
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue=
, 4 Aug 2020 18:05:28 -0700
jbiskofski <jb=
iskofski-at-gmail.com> wrote:
> I had a hard time accepting this was a good configuration because for<=
br>
> 20 years I had thought of webservers as big giant compiled systems
> (apache), but apparently you can now create something just as fast in<=
br>
> Perl.
And a helluva lot easier to install, manage, develop on, and maintain.ckquote>
Steven, =C2=A0I have =
met you at a couple of Perl conferences and know you know Raku as well. One=
thing that has always bothered me about PSGI, Catalyst, mod_fcgi, etc., is=
that I could never find a practical cookbook solution for a simple but wor=
king dynamic and publicly available https website on a real, modern Apache =
2.4 server on a Linux bare-metal, sole user remote server. "auto">
I would love to be able to have somethin=
g similar for Raku, and there is Cro, but it so far cannot handle auto-gene=
ration of Let's Encrypt TLS certificates with a reverse proxy on Apache=
.
As an alternative, I w=
ould be happy to run with a Perl solution iif it could handle my TLS requir=
ement. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. =
BTW, I have publicly documented my current Apac=
he setup (non-dynamic except for limited CGI use on a couple of sites). The=
Apache uses nearly the latest Apache and OpenSSL compiled from source. It =
includes multiple (15 or so at last count) virtual hosts (using macros for =
extremely easy deployment). It was last updated mid-2020 and I'll be lo=
oking to update it next year. It's on Github and I'll send the refe=
rence if anyone wants it.
">Blessings,
-Tom <=
/div>
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