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MESSAGE
DATE 2020-10-14
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] License Insanity continues to destory society
https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7jm4y/proprietary-grapes-come-with-draconian-end-user-license-agreement?utm_content=1602683336&utm_medium=social&utm_source=motherboard_twitter

vice.com
Proprietary Grapes Come With Draconian End User License Agreement
4-5 minutes

They did EULA to a grape.

A company put an end user license agreement (EULA) on a bag of grapes:
“The recipient of the produce contained in this package agrees not to
propagate or reproduce any portion of this produce, including ‘but not
limited to’ seeds, stems, tissue, and fruit,” read the EULA on a bag of
Carnival brand grapes posted on Twitter by user Tube Time.

When you purchase a bag of delicious and sugary Carnival brand grapes,
you enter into an agreement whereby you will consume the grapes and do
nothing else with them. This kind of warning against reproduction is
something we’re used to with digital products like video games, but is
jarring to see spread to the world of consumer produce.

“It’s always shocking and more than a little absurd to find these
licenses on everyday consumer products, especially at the grocery
store,” Aaron Perzanowski, a law professor at Case Western Reserve
University and the co-author of The End of Ownership, told Motherboard
in an email.

In the broader world of agriculture, however, there's actually quite a
lot of precedent for this. And patented seeds with specific restrictions
is a constant sore point for farmers. Agriculture giant Monsanto has
patented a whole host of proprietary seeds that are weed- and
insect-resistant, and threatens to sue farmers who harvest and replant
them from year-to-year. In fact, the Supreme Court has already ruled on
this.

“There actually is a solid legal basis for this sort of license. The
Supreme Court decided a case called Bowman v. Monsanto a few years back
that held a patent owner had the right to restrict the use of soybeans
by prohibiting the reharvesting and replanting of seeds in subsequent
seasons,” Perzanowski said. “So if the grape variety here is subject to
a patent, buying the grapes at the store doesn’t necessarily entitle you
to grow new ones.”

The Cotton Candy, a sugary version of the common grape, is indeed
patented by horticulturalist David Cain. Perzanowski said he disagrees
with the Supreme Court’s ruling. “For a product like a seed, I’d argue
that replication is inherent in the product itself,” he said. “So making
new copies is a normal and expected use that purchasers ought to be able
to engage in and that no license can take away.”

Being that seeds are a natural "product" that are designed to reproduce,
there are all sorts of other interesting wrinkles here, many of which
have not been solved, legally speaking. For example, plants grown from
Monsanto-patented seeds can be naturally replanted by insects, birds,
and humans by accident (in the way that plants have replicated naturally
for millions of years.) They can also be cross-pollinated with
unpatented (or open-source pollen/plants, if you will), creating a new
strain of plant. Are those plants subject to patent? Is Monsanto going
to sue a bird for taking a seed and "planting" it somewhere else?

The grape situation is a little bit different. With Monsanto's seeds,
farmers are purchasing them directly from the manufacturer (or a
licensed seller). With Cotton Candy grapes, an end-user (uhh, grape
eater) did not plant or grow the seeds and is merely purchasing the
fruit at the store. They are not purchasing the grapes (and thus the
seeds) directly from the manufacturer or the farmer who grew them, they
are buying it from a grocery store. The seeds have thus been re-sold
several times.

According to the patent, the grapes are 18% sugar. “As for the fruit
itself? Not that great, they're just too sugary for my tastes,” Tube
Time said on Twitter. Although not allowed to propagate or reproduce the
fruit, Tube Time was able to make them more palatable by freezing them
and turning them into Grapesicles.


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  99. 2020-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hospitalizations increase in New York amid second
  100. 2020-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Double Jepardy means the lock down stratergy is
  101. 2020-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] gene Editing
  102. 2020-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] baseball fans
  103. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] National Geopgraphic on Science,
  104. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fossils and Private Property
  105. 2020-10-14 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] National Geopgraphic on Science,
  106. 2020-10-14 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] National Geopgraphic on Science,
  107. 2020-10-14 From: =?utf-8?Q?Vickie=20for=20City=20Council?= <vickie4nyc-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?My_Campaign_for_City_Council_Kickoff?=
  108. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] King Cuomo
  109. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The problem if you are Jewish
  110. 2020-10-14 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Flat Trends
  111. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] License Insanity continues to destory society
  112. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Experts continue their war on drivers .... even
  113. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The MTA just never ever has enough money
  114. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Flat Trends
  115. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] biden and the ukraine
  116. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fauci cancels Thanksgiving - Christmas is next
  117. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fauci cancels Thanksgiving - Christmas is next
  118. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Mathmatics of Social Distancing and results
  119. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] one million more unemployeed this week?
  120. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Exodus from NYC in full swing
  121. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Unemployement Insurance Fraud through the roof..
  122. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID is NEVER going away ... now what?
  123. 2020-10-16 From: "Dana Morgenstein, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Thank you for being a part of our 35th birthday
  124. 2020-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Social Isolation Efficacy
  125. 2020-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] What is at stake in this coming election
  126. 2020-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] voting for a public enemy
  127. 2020-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] voting for a public enemy
  128. 2020-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] voting for a public enemy
  129. 2020-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why Covid-19 became so bad - the healthcare
  130. 2020-10-18 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Why Covid-19 became so bad - the
  131. 2020-10-18 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Why Covid-19 became so bad - the
  132. 2020-10-19 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #482 - Perl Town Hall
  133. 2020-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Google sued by government over anti-trust
  134. 2020-10-20 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jami needs feedback from hacker users
  135. 2020-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jami needs feedback from hacker users
  136. 2020-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jami needs feedback from hacker users
  137. 2020-10-21 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] SOLVED smtpd segfault error 4
  138. 2020-10-21 Christos Nouskas via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] smtpd segfault error 4 in
  139. 2020-10-20 cromer--- via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit service scripts for ly
  140. 2020-10-20 cromer--- via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit service scripts for ly
  141. 2020-10-21 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] smtpd segfault error 4 in
  142. 2020-10-20 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit service scripts for ly
  143. 2020-10-20 cromer--- via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit service scripts for ly
  144. 2020-10-19 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit service scripts for ly
  145. 2020-10-20 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] smtpd segfault error 4 in
  146. 2020-10-12 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Server brought down with
  147. 2020-10-11 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Server brought down with update
  148. 2020-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Remembering Robin WIlliams - really worth a watch
  149. 2020-10-22 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] LibrePlanet 2021 will be an online event,
  150. 2020-10-25 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Read-only filesystem after
  151. 2020-10-24 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Read-only filesystem after
  152. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] European troubles with COVID-19
  153. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] China Trade War
  154. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] war on cars by protestors takes a deadly turn
  155. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Rather serious war is tackled by the White House.
  156. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] anti-chinese alliance
  157. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lockdown resistence by Epidimiologist being
  158. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] News Flash - you can not reopen without a rise in
  159. 2020-10-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Advanced Algorithms - Harvard
  160. 2020-10-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] CLEAR evidence of SYSTEMIC voter fraud in NYC.
  161. 2020-10-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] fighting back
  162. 2020-10-26 Christos Nouskas <nous-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] zero byte files under /usr/lib
  163. 2020-10-26 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #483 - CI for every CPAN module
  164. 2020-10-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nutcases running the ny times
  165. 2020-10-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Continued LAK of security and tracking
  166. 2020-10-28 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Committee_begins_review_of_High_Prio?=
  167. 2020-10-28 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  168. 2020-10-28 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  169. 2020-10-28 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  170. 2020-10-28 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  171. 2020-10-28 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  172. 2020-10-28 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  173. 2020-10-28 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd upgrade
  174. 2020-10-28 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  175. 2020-10-28 Franck STAUFFER via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Package dependencies
  176. 2020-10-28 Franck STAUFFER via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Package dependencies
  177. 2020-10-26 Christos Nouskas <nous-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] zero byte files under /usr/lib
  178. 2020-10-29 epektasis <rptnix-at-amerytel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  179. 2020-10-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Islamic War on the West perks up again
  180. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The FBI is fighting back
  181. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Trump Administration Proposes Eliminating H-1B
  182. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Democratic control of NYC
  183. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Testing Data - see for yourself the
  184. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the consequences on education of COVID and on
  185. 2020-10-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  186. 2020-10-29 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  187. 2020-10-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  188. 2020-10-29 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  189. 2020-10-29 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  190. 2020-10-29 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] killing automount with gvfs
  191. 2020-10-29 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  192. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] German Vaccinations to start this year
  193. 2020-10-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  194. 2020-10-30 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  195. 2020-10-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  196. 2020-10-27 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] nutcases running the ny times
  197. 2020-10-01 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cutting cuomo off at the knees
  198. 2020-10-31 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Color map is different than Color
  199. 2020-10-30 Jim Halloran via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Gimp download & Install on Ubuntu

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