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| DATE | 2020-10-04 |
| FROM | Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
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I'm using 2.10.20 and it works as I describe above. I have been using the
Gimp since 2.8 and before, and it has always worked that way.
What version are you using, and did you try what I described or did you
just read it?
How many text layers do you have?
Cliff
On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 4:33 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 03 October 2020 21:23:35 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
> wrote:
>
> > Hm, how many text layers do you have?
> >
> > If I create a text layer I can create it with the particular font and
> > font size. When I create another text layer, I can set the font, etc
> > in the new layer to something different. If I then decide that the
> > font is wrong in the first text layer, and I select that text layer,
> > it comes up with the font and font size that I selected in the first
> > place ie, what it was when I left that layer. If I go back to the
> > other text layer it shows the font and font size that it was when I
> > left THAT layer.
> >
> > So
> > 1) I create a text box/layer (call it One), set the font to something,
> > and the font size to 16 pts. I type something eg One. [I create a text
> > box by clicking on the text tool, and clicking on the canvas.]
> > 2) I create a second text box/layer. (call it Two). I set the font to
> > 64 pts. I type something eg Two. [I create a new text box by clicking
> > somewhere outside the first text box.]
> > 3) I decide that the font size in One is too small. I switch to that
> > text layer [By clicking in the text box.]. *The font size now shows 16
> > pts*. I change the font size. I don't delete the text. I just change
> > the font size (to say 32 pts).
> > 4) I switch to layer Two. *The font size now shows 64 pts*.
> > 5) If I switch between text layers the font size alternates between 16
> > and 64 pts.
> >
> > Each 'line of text' is in a separate text layer. Each text layer
> > retains the font, font size and other attributes that it had when you
> > last left it. Any new layer contains the attributes of the previous
> > text layer that you created.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Cliff
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 11:02 PM Rick Strong wrote:
> > > My eyes are nearly 80 years old, I am going blind in one of them and
> > > I can easily read 18 pt type.
> > > Anyway, you need something larger. OK. Try double clicking on the
> > > "A" tool and setting the type specs in the dialogue/tab that comes
> > > up on the right. Screenshot attached. I assume you are using the
> > > latest version.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gene Heskett
> > > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2020 7:38 PM
> > > To: Rick Strong
> > > Cc: gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
> > >
> > > On Friday 02 October 2020 18:36:07 you wrote:
> > > > Gene,
> > > >
> > > > By my reckoning, an 18 px letter is less than 1 pt high on an 300
> > > > dpi print—virtually invisible. Try setting the text size to 18
> > > > pts. (POINTS, not pixels) to be legible.
> > >
> > > I have done that, Rick, but 18 pts isn't near big enough for older
> > > eyes either, so you backspace to get rid of the dust specs, look up
> > > to the text box and its reset to 18px. Frustrating is a very weak
> > > description. You spend 10 minutes bounceing from one place in that
> > > tool, to another trying to get it to keep what you selected long
> > > enough to type one line of text. Repeat for every line of text you
> > > want to overlay on a pix.
> > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > I don't need luck, I need instructions that work, please read my
> > > whole message.
>
> And so far, for all the pontificating here, none of which seems to apply
> to the 2.8 I am trying to use. That alone is more than ample evidence of
> the control churn as far as I am concerned. I have changed the font,
> color and size, then clicked save at the bottom of my tool edit window
> until I've about wore out the mouse and the save button. But the next
> time I launch GIMP, its still black, sans, and 18 px. If you can make
> 2.8 text Just Work so setting one thing does NOT restore the totally
> useless defaults for everything else, AND the save and restore buttons
> actually do that, I need the exact sequence of operations that ACTUALLY
> DO make it work in the 2.8 being published by debian.
>
> OR push debian to update it to your version of 2.10 unpatched by debian,
> don't even allow branding patches.
>
> OR setup a repo we can download a WORKING copy of 2.10 or whatever the
> current version of the day is, from your own servers in .deb format.
>
> Take your pick, but please, get your users a WORKING copy of GIMP.
>
> 20 years ago I could ask how to do something and get instructions on how
> to do it that worked. Now its 2020 and all I am getting is claims that
> it Just Works, without even qualifying the answer with a versiion number
> or a step by step that does work.
>
> > > > RS
> > >
> > > My whole point is that there is no way to set the defaults AND
> > > setting anything else restores the default of 18 px, switches it
> > > back to sans font, and the selected color back to black. Changing
> > > ANY of those settings should change them at the very least for the
> > > lifetime of the current session. ANY TIME YOU CHANGE ONE THING, IT
> > > RESETS EVERYTHING ELSE BACK TO THE DEFAULTS. INCLUDING CHANGING
> > > WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT IT BY LEFT CLICKING THE SCREEN WHERE YOU WANT
> > > TO START TYPING. And if your put it here click is too high, the box
> > > disappears under the friggin ruler at the top of the screen so that
> > > you can't see if its decided to restore all the defaults
> > >
> > > Since you have not addressed my main bitch at all, how about telling
> > > us how to change the text defaults to something that IS usable and
> > > by makeing those the defaults, 90% of the frustrations would be
> > > addressed. Maybe _you_ have a sequence that works, but no one has
> > > told the users. Put it in a format I can print and tape to the wall
> > > for next time.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Gene Heskett
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2020 5:05 PM
> > > > To: gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org
> > > > Subject: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
> > > >
> > > > Greetings all;
> > > >
> > > > I, like Ruben Safir, am A. tired of the lack of good docs, and B.
> > > > the churn in how it works. I just had occasion to caption some pix
> > > > as an aid to my wife who is not a computer whiz, in setting up a
> > > > piano keyboard, and the air was quite blue around me by the time I
> > > > got done because every time I tried to set one option in the text
> > > > panel it reset everything else back to the defaults. And an 18 px
> > > > black character isn't more than a visible dot on an 8x10 printout,
> > > > so I click on the size and add a zero to make 180 px. Then I am
> > > > going to put it in a black area of the printout, so I select the
> > > > color white and hit enter and it resets the size to 18px and the
> > > > font back to sans from sans serif. Thats bs at its finest. So is
> > > > the text box when its under the top ruler and you can't see that
> > > > its decided to reset everything back to the defaults. So please
> > > > tell me the correct sequence of key or mouse strokes to set that
> > > > up and if possible set it as the defaults so I don't have to get
> > > > so frustrated just to add a line or 3 of text captions to a
> > > > picture. You've made 4 hours of very frustrating work out of
> > > > captioning 6 photo's that ought to be 3 minutes plus print time
> > > > each. If this worked. But IMNSHO it sucks dead toads thru soda
> > > > straws. So please make it _Just_Work_, write some docs that tell
> > > > us how to use it, and then stop the churn.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > --
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> > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> --
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> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
> - Louis D. Brandeis
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