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DATE 2020-10-01
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Chinese Method of invading Europe and
wsj.com
WSJ News Exclusive | Behind China’s Decade of European Deals, State
Investors Evade Notice
Daniel Michaels
11-14 minutes

China’s government has been deeply involved—often from behind the
scenes—in a wave of acquisitions across Europe over the past decade.

Of 650 Chinese investments in Europe since 2010, roughly 40% have high
or moderate involvement by state-owned or state-controlled companies,
including some in advanced technologies, according to new research by
Dutch consulting firm Datenna BV. The analysts combed through millions
of records in China’s company-registration databases.

In many of the European mergers and acquisitions, Chinese state
influence was effectively hidden by layers of ownership, complex
shareholding structures and deals executed via European subsidiaries,
Datenna found.

The extent of Chinese state involvement highlights European governments’
lack of a system as powerful or active as the Committee on Foreign
Investment in the U.S., known as Cfius, which can block international
acquisitions in the U.S. based on national-security grounds. European
officials increasingly worry this leaves companies exposed to unwanted
foreign influence, loss of critical innovations and an erosion of
cutting-edge industries.

The European Union aims to start filling that gap with new rules that
take effect on Oct. 11 and should flag potential security consequences
of foreign investments. China is a prime target. EU officials are also
pressing members to ensure their companies aren’t sold at fire-sale
prices amid the coronavirus economic contraction, as critics say
happened during the eurozone crisis a decade ago.

State-linked enterprises are critical to China’s top-down economy,
giving the government and the Communist Party outsize influence in
business. Western governments and executives have long accused Chinese
companies of predatory and anticompetitive behavior, often backed by
preferential financing, that distorts sectors from steel to solar panels.

A spokesman for the China Chamber of Commerce to the EU, founded by
large Chinese state-owned investors in Europe, said the bloc “is a
mature and open market and China is willing to open its door even wider.”

Now, China’s state-backed enterprises face increased international
scrutiny amid Beijing’s growing appetite for advanced Western
technologies, a hunger that has sparked concerns that China is buying
European know-how that it can use to leapfrog European companies.

Chinese government influence in technology giants including Huawei
Technologies Co., ZTE Corp. and TikTok owner ByteDance Ltd. has become a
tense political issue in the U.S., Australia and other countries. While
most European governments have avoided following the Trump
administration’s confrontational approach with Beijing, pressure for
action is rising.

Discerning state influence in Chinese companies has grown more difficult
as President Xi Jinping has tightened government and Communist Party
control over the economy and society. The party’s Central Committee
recently advocated greater work “to realize the party’s leadership over
the private economy.”

Beijing’s involvement in European acquisitions for years drew little
scrutiny. The European Court of Auditors, an EU watchdog, in a report
this month said official information on Chinese direct investment is
“not timely… fragmented and incomplete.” Chinese investment is “a black
hole for data,” said court member Annemie Turtelboom, who led the analysis.

The EU, in a report on foreign-direct investment published last year,
found 57 acquisitions by Chinese state-owned enterprises between 2010
and 2017. Datenna identified 160 deals over that period with what it
considers significant Chinese state influence, and 100 more with
moderate influence. The EU is currently updating its analysis, said a
spokeswoman.

European countries including Germany, France and the U.K., which this
year left the EU, have recently assumed powers to block deals. Alicia
Garcia-Herrero, chief economist for Asia-Pacific at French bank Natixis,
said Europe is enticing to China for its technology and because its
investment-screening mechanisms are lax compared with those in other
advanced economies.

Private researchers who track Chinese financial flows in Europe have
previously found that, measured by value, state enterprises are behind
more than half of announced acquisitions. China’s largest investments,
like China National Chemical Corp.’s $7.9 billion acquisition of Italian
tire maker Pirelli & C. in 2015, have been done by clearly state-owned
companies.

Less evident has been Chinese state involvement in hundreds of smaller
deals and those without an announced price. Many of the deals Datenna
analyzed had no published value. Roughly 15% were done through European
subsidiaries or earlier acquisitions, meaning they evaded scrutiny as
foreign investments.

In many listed Chinese companies that are apparently private,
significant blocks of shares are held by entities under state control,
Datenna found. Government links in many Chinese acquisitions have
therefore escaped notice.

Tracking Deals

Datenna found 650 companies in Europe acquired by Chinese firms from
2010 to 2020. In all, the Chinese state has a high level of influence on
161 of these firms.

2011: Chinese investors become big players in European M&A for the first
time, with deal value topping $10 billion.

2016: Chinese direct investment in European companies peaks in value and
number of deals.

2018: Deal flow slows significantly amid political pressure in Europe
and capital restrictions in China.

20102011201220132014201520162017201820192020

Filter by level of Chinese state influence

LowMediumHigh

Source: Datenna

Datenna, which specializes in investment screening and export-control
regulations, spent almost four years building its ownership database. It
grounded assessments of state influence on factors including the size of
government shareholdings in a Chinese buyer, the size and influence of
other shareholders and whether the government shareholder is a strategic
investor.

The China Chamber of Commerce to the EU spokesman referred questions
about the research to a report the group recently published, which plays
down concerns about state involvement. State companies “are independent
in decision-making,” most are listed on stock exchanges “and have a
healthy corporate governance structure.”

“The investment and development of Chinese enterprises in Europe are
market-oriented decisions,” the report said.

Datenna Chief Executive Jaap van Etten, a former Dutch diplomat, said
that while more than half of Chinese investments in Europe have little
state involvement, “when there is state influence, it’s often at a very
high level.”

State involvement emerges in many small acquisitions targeting advanced
technologies that Beijing seeks for economic independence, especially
amid trade fights with Washington that have crimped access to microchips
and other cutting-edge products.

Mr. Van Etten pointed to Anteryon Optical Solutions in the Netherlands,
a spinoff of Philips Electronics that makes digital equipment for
cameras and robotics. A subsidiary of Shanghai-listed Suzhou Jingfang
Semiconductor Technology Co.—also known as China Wafer Level CSP
Co.—last year took a 73% stake for €32 million (equivalent to $37
million) in Anteryon. The buyer is controlled through multiple layers of
interlinked shareholders who are ultimately in the hands of state
entities, Datanna concluded.

Channels of Influence

Dutch digital-optics equipment maker Anteryon was acquired last year by
a Chinese company that is ultimately controlled by state-linked entities.

Suzhou Industrial Park Finance Bureau
Anteryon

Suzhou IndustrialPark Finance Bureau

Suzhou IndustrialPark Management Committee

SuzhouIndustrial ParkAdministrative Committee

National Integrated CircuitIndustry Investment Fund

National Assemblyof the PRC

Source: Datenna

Anteryon’s Dutch CEO Gert-Jan Bloks said its new shareholders are very
professional. “From a strategic and operational perspective I do not see
any involvement from the Chinese government in our company” or in its
owners, he said.

Chinese investments in Europe have become increasingly controversial
following acquisitions of leading high-tech companies such as German
industrial-robot maker Kuka AG in 2017 and storied brands like Pirelli.

Europe hasn’t had a mechanism to intercede in deals like Northeast
Industries Group’s 2015 purchase of Germany’s Fuba Reception System for
an undisclosed price. Fuba, a spin-off of former General Motors Co. unit
Delphi Co., has long been a world leader in vehicle communications.

Northeast’s parent, giant defense contractor Norinco Group, is
controlled by an arm of China’s State Council, so Fuba “is now
controlled by the Chinese government,” Datenna concluded.

Fuba is one of several European companies that previously focused on
advanced civilian technologies and since their Chinese takeovers have
become part of groups making products with potential military
applications, known as dual-use technologies, Datenna found.

Fuba managers didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Europeans a decade ago welcomed Chinese-state investment. When the euro
crisis crushed southern European economies, leaders across the continent
urged Portugal, Greece and Italy to sell big-ticket infrastructure
assets such as power companies and ports to Chinese buyers.

As a result, it has long been evident that Chinese state investors
dominated deal value in Europe. Consulting firm Rhodium Group found that
56% of $188 billion in Chinese direct investments into the EU between
2010 and the first half of this year came from state companies.

Large investments by overtly state-owned Chinese enterprises have
dwindled in recent years as a result of capital restrictions placed by
Beijing and a cooler reception in Europe, according to a recent report
by Rhodium and Germany’s Mercator Institute for China Studies.

But shareholding structures of Chinese state-linked companies are
frequently complex, involving multiple investment funds, agencies and
layers of ownership, which can complicate determining where final
control sits.

The EU Chamber of Commerce in China said in a report last year that “the
continued mixing of politics and business, with the [Communist Party]
insinuating itself into the governance structures of private companies,”
is blurring the distinction between business and the state.

Write to Daniel Michaels at daniel.michaels-at-wsj.com
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  69. 2020-10-05 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
  70. 2020-10-05 From: "Matt Lavallee, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FSF 35 years: Limited edition T-shirt and poster
  71. 2020-10-05 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #480 - Hacktoberfest 2020
  72. 2020-10-06 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Join the FSF for an online birthday celebration
  73. 2020-10-05 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Interview with Audrey Tang about Taiwan's
  74. 2020-10-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Efficacy and Safety of Hydroxychloroquine vs
  75. 2020-10-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] NY Times slant
  76. 2020-10-08 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] NY Times slant
  77. 2020-10-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] NY Times slant
  78. 2020-10-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] NY Times slant
  79. 2020-10-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] NY Times slant
  80. 2020-10-08 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] NY Times slant
  81. 2020-10-04 From: "Greg Farough, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FSF at 35 -- join us in celebrating this
  82. 2020-10-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] gerrymandering
  83. 2020-10-08 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gerrymandering
  84. 2020-10-08 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] [ANNOUNCE] GIMP 2.10.22
  85. 2020-10-03 Ofnuts <ofnuts-at-gmx.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Orientations, Copyright Notices,
  86. 2020-10-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] gerrymandering
  87. 2020-10-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] gerrymandering
  88. 2020-10-09 shulie <shulie_release-at-optimum.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] gerrymandering
  89. 2020-10-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: NY Times slant
  90. 2020-10-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] what we learn about the nature of science
  91. 2020-10-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Server brought down with
  92. 2020-10-11 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Server brought down with update
  93. 2020-10-11 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Server brought down with update
  94. 2020-10-12 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #481 - Remote or Distributed work
  95. 2020-10-12 Max Reitz <mreitz-at-redhat.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Which qemu change corresponds to RedHat bug
  96. 2020-10-12 Max Reitz <mreitz-at-redhat.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Which qemu change corresponds to RedHat bug
  97. 2020-10-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] fauci the kook
  98. 2020-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Mediterainian Gas and Israel and Lebonon
  99. 2020-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hospitalizations increase in New York amid second
  100. 2020-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Double Jepardy means the lock down stratergy is
  101. 2020-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] gene Editing
  102. 2020-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] baseball fans
  103. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] National Geopgraphic on Science,
  104. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fossils and Private Property
  105. 2020-10-14 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] National Geopgraphic on Science,
  106. 2020-10-14 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] National Geopgraphic on Science,
  107. 2020-10-14 From: =?utf-8?Q?Vickie=20for=20City=20Council?= <vickie4nyc-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?My_Campaign_for_City_Council_Kickoff?=
  108. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] King Cuomo
  109. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The problem if you are Jewish
  110. 2020-10-14 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Flat Trends
  111. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] License Insanity continues to destory society
  112. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Experts continue their war on drivers .... even
  113. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The MTA just never ever has enough money
  114. 2020-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Flat Trends
  115. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] biden and the ukraine
  116. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fauci cancels Thanksgiving - Christmas is next
  117. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fauci cancels Thanksgiving - Christmas is next
  118. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Mathmatics of Social Distancing and results
  119. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] one million more unemployeed this week?
  120. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Exodus from NYC in full swing
  121. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Unemployement Insurance Fraud through the roof..
  122. 2020-10-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID is NEVER going away ... now what?
  123. 2020-10-16 From: "Dana Morgenstein, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Thank you for being a part of our 35th birthday
  124. 2020-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Social Isolation Efficacy
  125. 2020-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] What is at stake in this coming election
  126. 2020-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] voting for a public enemy
  127. 2020-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] voting for a public enemy
  128. 2020-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] voting for a public enemy
  129. 2020-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why Covid-19 became so bad - the healthcare
  130. 2020-10-18 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Why Covid-19 became so bad - the
  131. 2020-10-18 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Why Covid-19 became so bad - the
  132. 2020-10-19 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #482 - Perl Town Hall
  133. 2020-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Google sued by government over anti-trust
  134. 2020-10-20 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jami needs feedback from hacker users
  135. 2020-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jami needs feedback from hacker users
  136. 2020-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jami needs feedback from hacker users
  137. 2020-10-21 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] SOLVED smtpd segfault error 4
  138. 2020-10-21 Christos Nouskas via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] smtpd segfault error 4 in
  139. 2020-10-20 cromer--- via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit service scripts for ly
  140. 2020-10-20 cromer--- via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit service scripts for ly
  141. 2020-10-21 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] smtpd segfault error 4 in
  142. 2020-10-20 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit service scripts for ly
  143. 2020-10-20 cromer--- via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit service scripts for ly
  144. 2020-10-19 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] runit service scripts for ly
  145. 2020-10-20 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] smtpd segfault error 4 in
  146. 2020-10-12 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Server brought down with
  147. 2020-10-11 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Server brought down with update
  148. 2020-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Remembering Robin WIlliams - really worth a watch
  149. 2020-10-22 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] LibrePlanet 2021 will be an online event,
  150. 2020-10-25 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Read-only filesystem after
  151. 2020-10-24 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Read-only filesystem after
  152. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] European troubles with COVID-19
  153. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] China Trade War
  154. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] war on cars by protestors takes a deadly turn
  155. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Rather serious war is tackled by the White House.
  156. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] anti-chinese alliance
  157. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lockdown resistence by Epidimiologist being
  158. 2020-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] News Flash - you can not reopen without a rise in
  159. 2020-10-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Advanced Algorithms - Harvard
  160. 2020-10-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] CLEAR evidence of SYSTEMIC voter fraud in NYC.
  161. 2020-10-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] fighting back
  162. 2020-10-26 Christos Nouskas <nous-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] zero byte files under /usr/lib
  163. 2020-10-26 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #483 - CI for every CPAN module
  164. 2020-10-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nutcases running the ny times
  165. 2020-10-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Continued LAK of security and tracking
  166. 2020-10-28 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Committee_begins_review_of_High_Prio?=
  167. 2020-10-28 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  168. 2020-10-28 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  169. 2020-10-28 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  170. 2020-10-28 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  171. 2020-10-28 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  172. 2020-10-28 epektasis via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  173. 2020-10-28 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd upgrade
  174. 2020-10-28 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  175. 2020-10-28 Franck STAUFFER via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Package dependencies
  176. 2020-10-28 Franck STAUFFER via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Package dependencies
  177. 2020-10-26 Christos Nouskas <nous-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] zero byte files under /usr/lib
  178. 2020-10-29 epektasis <rptnix-at-amerytel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  179. 2020-10-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Islamic War on the West perks up again
  180. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The FBI is fighting back
  181. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Trump Administration Proposes Eliminating H-1B
  182. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Democratic control of NYC
  183. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Testing Data - see for yourself the
  184. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the consequences on education of COVID and on
  185. 2020-10-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  186. 2020-10-29 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  187. 2020-10-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  188. 2020-10-29 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  189. 2020-10-29 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  190. 2020-10-29 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] killing automount with gvfs
  191. 2020-10-29 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  192. 2020-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] German Vaccinations to start this year
  193. 2020-10-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  194. 2020-10-30 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  195. 2020-10-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [atix-general][s6] dhcpcd
  196. 2020-10-27 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] nutcases running the ny times
  197. 2020-10-01 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] cutting cuomo off at the knees
  198. 2020-10-31 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Color map is different than Color
  199. 2020-10-30 Jim Halloran via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Gimp download & Install on Ubuntu

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