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| DATE | 2020-09-05 |
| FROM | Elle Stone
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP Version 2.8.16
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Hi Kenny,
In case Alex's suggestion to activate the legacy theme doesn't actually
fix enough of the differences between "new gimp" and "old gimp", another
possibility might be to install VirtualBox in your newest version of
Mint, and then install in a virtual machine the last version of Mint
that will install and run GIMP 2.8.
Maybe you've already considered using a virtual machine, but if not,
VirtualBox does allow to open/export/save files back and forth between
the virtual machine's and real machine's hard drives. Once everything is
running properly, make a backup copy of the virtual machine
configuration files and especially the VDI (virtual disk image) in case
the one you use every day somehow gets corrupted.
VirtualBox can be set up to run seamlessly inside the host Linux
installation. I haven't used VirtualBox in several years, but back when
I did use it regularly, it worked flawlessly to allow running an old
operating system and software. I transferred that virtual machine
through quite a few hardware and operating system changes, and it always
worked like a charm.
I did find a pre-made, downloadable virtual machine for Mint 19:
https://www.linuxvmimages.com/images/virtualbox/
https://www.linuxvmimages.com/images/linuxmint-19/
Maybe somewhere there is a pre-made image for Mint 18 if Mint 19 won't
work. But if you can install an operating system on bare metal,
installing the same operating system in a virtual machine involves just
about the exact same procedure - the difficult part is setting
everything up to get to the point of actually being able to start
installing the selected operating system.
Fortunately the VirtualBox forums are pretty good, or at least they used
to be. Also there used to be (and probably still are) a lot of "how
to's" on the internet, but at least in the past the "how to's" were
outdated almost as soon as they were written as VirtualBox itself was
changing rapidly. So it's necessary to make sure the "how to" applies to
the more recent versions of VirtualBox.
Probably the Mint forums could help, and the Arch Linux documentation
always seem to have good, up-to-date "how tos" that often apply to other
versions of Linux.
Best regards,
Elle
On 9/4/20 8:01 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote:
> But Kenny,
>
> You do not have to go back to 2.8 to get back the old user interface.
>
> 'Edit > Preferences > Interface > Theme / Icon Theme' will give you
> legacy options.
>
> Alex
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 2:46 AM Kenny Mann wrote:
>>
>> I don't have the skills to compile GIMP from
>>
>> The new interface in GIMP 2.10 is a problem somewhat unique to me. I have a neurological disorder. Navigating anything -- walking to the grocery store and back, traveling by trains, buses, airplanes, sometimes even finding the kitchen in my house -- is dependent on life-long-learned tricks that are based in objective visible familiarity. This neural disorder is worsening.
>>
>> After using Photoshop since v. 2.2, I've been using GIMP 2.8 in Linux Mint 17 and 18 for years. I work in GIMP 2.8 for hours every day. Samples: No prob.
>>
>> The threshold for gaining use of GIMP 2.10 would take unknown weeks of mostly failure, due to the lack of neural mapping I have for the interface. Read: It looks only similar to anyplace I've ever been and it's a place I have no readable map for. To me, the (neural) map has blots that most people will easily read in the GIMP 2.10 interface as easily recognizable information.
>>
>> The app manager in Mint 20 will only install GIMP 2.10 -- and has only a button for a flatpack of GIMP 2.10
>>
>> GIMP 2.8 is available to install from the app manager in Mint 18.
>>
>> For now, I can boot a drive that's fully set up in Mint 18 with GIMP 2.8. I can use that for as long as it hasn't gotten corrupted on my computer. I can do a fresh install of Mint 18 for as long as that version is supported. I'd like to get ahead on having a fresh OS install. Becoming cognizant of GIMP 2.10 would be a big delay. At my age, that's real iffy.
>>
>> I've been doing okay with Mint 20 -- having spent weeks making the Cinnamon version appear as much like Mint 18 Cinnamon as possible.
>>
>> Which will hold on longer -- Mint 18/GIMP 2.8 or me? Should I spend that time mapping-out a new territory or do I get to keep working along the road that has what I need to recognize where I am?
>>
>> Legacy is something that app developers have a long harsh history of overlooking. (Among others, I once worked closely with Apple Newton developers, for instance. May Steve rest in peace.) Viable available legacy is important. We're all legacy, sooner or later.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 3:03 PM Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 1:00 AM Kenny Mann wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why is GIMP 2.8.16 not available?
>>>
>>> Source code: https://download.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.8/gimp-2.8.16.tar.bz2
>>> Windows: https://download.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.8/windows/gimp-2.8.16-setup-6.exe
>>> macOS: https://download.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.8/osx/gimp-2.8.16-x86_64-1.dmg
>>>
>>> We are not under any kind of obligation to provide direct links to
>>> obsolete releases from the main downloads page.
>>>
>>> Alex
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