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DATE 2020-08-22
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Chinese technological threat and recruitment
wsj.com
WSJ News Exclusive | How China Targets Scientists via Global Network of
Recruiting Stations
Kate O’Keeffe and Aruna Viswanatha
8-11 minutes

WASHINGTON—China is targeting top scientific and technological expertise
in the U.S. and other advanced nations through an expanding network of
600 talent-recruitment stations world-wide, a new report partly funded
by the U.S. State Department has found.

U.S. officials have long warned that China uses recruitment programs to
improperly obtain advanced technology. However, the research conducted
by an Australian think tank details the little-known but elaborate
infrastructure the Chinese Communist Party uses to recruit scientists
from organizations such as Tesla Inc. and Harvard University through
such programs.

Beijing has denied attempting any systematic effort to steal U.S.
scientific research, and Chinese state media have said the U.S. is using
allegations of intellectual-property theft as a political tool. The
Chinese embassy in Washington, D.C., didn’t immediately respond to a
request for comment.

The talent programs, such as the Thousand Talents Plan, are supported by
600 recruitment stations in countries around the world. They include
Germany, Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada and Japan, according to
the report published by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, a
nonpartisan think tank created by the Australian government. The U.S.
has the most with at least 146 stations, the report said.

Though China began opening the stations by 2006, it has greatly
accelerated the program in recent years, according to the report by
analyst Alex Joske. Of the 600 total stations identified, more than 115
were established in 2018 alone, it said.

Chinese officials typically contract out the operation of the stations
to local groups like hometown, business, professional and alumni
associations; technology and education companies; and Chinese Students
and Scholars Associations at university campuses, the report said. They
pay the groups the equivalent of as much as $29,000 for each individual
they recruit on top of as much as $22,000 a year for general operating
costs, it said.

The recruitment stations, which organize trips for scientists to visit
China, often operate in concert with China’s State Administration of
Foreign Experts Affairs and the United Front Work Department. The unit
within China’s ruling Communist Party engages thousands of organizations
to collect intelligence, encourage technology transfer, counter
dissident movements and generate support for other Beijing objectives.

The Chinese military’s recruitment of scientists is supported by the
same network of international recruitment stations and party-linked
organizations, the report said.

The research also sheds light on the leading role provincial, municipal
and district governments play in China’s talent recruitment efforts.
International attention has thus far focused on programs run at the
national level, such as the Thousand Talents Plan. However, the report
said, more than 80% of talent-recruitment programs are run at the
subnational level and may attract as many as seven times as many
scientists as the national programs.

Only 20 of the 600 total recruitment stations identified in the report
were established by national organizations, such as the United Front
Work Department’s Western Returned Scholars Association and Overseas
Chinese Affairs Office, it said.
The relationship between the U.S. and China has been sliding downhill at
an alarming rate in recent weeks. WSJ’s Gerald F. Seib highlights three
reasons why the ties between the two countries will be a major debate
topic on the run up to election day. Photo: Aly Song/Reuters

While participating in a foreign talent program isn’t illegal, U.S.
officials require participants to disclose such ties if they apply for
U.S. taxpayer-supported funding. U.S. authorities also say the Chinese
programs often provide incentives to steal intellectual property and
create conflicts of interest and commitment—especially when the
scientists maintain their positions in the U.S. while doing short stints
in China or running parallel labs there.

China’s efforts to attract talent and obtain technology have become a
lightning rod in the broader conflict between the U.S. and China. The
Justice Department has brought a series of cases against talent-program
participants and Chinese military researchers for allegedly lying about
their work with China or status with the People’s Liberation Army.

Tesla Inc. sued a former engineer, Cao Guangzhi, last year for allegedly
taking self-driving technology source code to a U.S. affiliate of
Chinese rival Guangzhou Xiaopeng Motors Technology Co. His past
activities indicate “a pattern of cooperation” for a decade with China’s
talent recruitment network, the report said.

Mr. Cao admitted he uploaded Tesla files to a personal iCloud account,
but said he tried to delete them before he left and denied any harm to
Tesla. The case is scheduled for a January trial.

A spokesman for Xiaopeng said “Xmotors is not aware of Mr. Cao’s out of
office activities, nor are we party to the Tesla case.” Representatives
for Tesla and Mr. Cao didn’t immediately return requests for comment.

Tesla sued a former engineer, Cao Guangzhi, last year for allegedly
taking self-driving technology source code to a Chinese rival.
Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg News

As a graduate student at Purdue University in 2009, Mr. Cao established
an Association of Wenzhou Ph.D.s. The group worked closely with Wenzhou
officials to identify U.S. doctoral students from the area and signed an
agreement with the United Front Work Department in Wenzhou to run a
talent-recruitment station, the report said.

The association grew to exceed 100 members, including U.S. government
employees and engineers from Alphabet Inc.’s Google, Apple Inc. and
other top technology companies, the report said. The association also
helped a university in Wenzhou recruit a scientist from the Argonne
National Laboratory in Illinois, according to the report.

A representative for the Energy Department, which oversees national labs
including Argonne, said in a statement: “While international
collaboration is essential to accelerate research and development, some
governments, like the Chinese Communist Party, are aggressively pursuing
access to foreign science and technology advancements and intellectual
property to the detriment of our economic prosperity and security.”
Google and Apple didn’t respond to requests for comment.

The report said the Chinese government-run infrastructure underpinning
the talent-recruitment programs contradicts a theory espoused by some
counterintelligence professionals. The theory holds that China uses a
“thousand grains of sand” approach to intelligence gathering and
economic espionage, relying on uncoordinated waves of amateur
ethnic-Chinese individuals to scoop up technology.

“It isn’t an ethnic program with individual actors at its core—it’s a
CCP program leveraging incentives as well as organised recruitment
activity,” wrote Mr. Joske. He urged officials to focus more on the
mechanisms the Chinese Communist Party uses to recruit talent than on
the individuals recruited to the programs.

The report calls the Justice Department case against Harvard Professor
Charles Lieber, a nanotechnologist with no Chinese heritage, “one of the
most egregious” examples of alleged misconduct related to a
talent-recruitment program.

Mr. Lieber was arrested earlier this year on charges of misleading U.S.
agencies about his participation in China’s Thousand Talents Plan, while
they were spending more than $15 million to fund his research group
here. He has pleaded not guilty.

Write to Kate O’Keeffe at kathryn.okeeffe-at-wsj.com and Aruna Viswanatha
at Aruna.Viswanatha-at-wsj.com

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  89. 2020-08-04 Wesley Peng <me-at-yonghua.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development language
  90. 2020-08-04 Mark Blackman <mark-at-blackmans.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  91. 2020-08-04 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  92. 2020-08-04 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  93. 2020-08-04 Rolf Schaufelberger <rs-at-plusw.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions for perl as web development
  94. 2020-08-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Question about deployment of math computing
  95. 2020-08-06 Mithun Bhattacharya <mithnb-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Question about deployment of math computing
  96. 2020-08-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Question about deployment of math computing
  97. 2020-08-07 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The University of Costumed Heroes: A video from
  98. 2020-08-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] check out this little video for fun
  99. 2020-08-10 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #472 - Perl Steering Committee
  100. 2020-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This is dangerous and it sucks... stretch
  101. 2020-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] mail in election troubles
  102. 2020-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Let us play - name their barber
  103. 2020-08-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] mail in election troubles
  104. 2020-08-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Eric Garner Fiasco continues as a point of
  105. 2020-08-11 NCPA eCommunications <ncpa.ecommunications-at-ncpanet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] HHS reopens Provider Relief Fund portal for
  106. 2020-08-11 NYOUG <execdir-at-nyoug.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Upcoming Events for Oracle Professionals
  107. 2020-08-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] totally fucked at this point
  108. 2020-08-11 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Question to local hosted demo
  109. 2020-08-11 EURAFRI Networking - Karl <karl-at-eurafri.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Question to local hosted demo database.
  110. 2020-08-11 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] An Historic Photo for an Historic Time
  111. 2020-08-11 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] An Historic Photo for an Historic Time
  112. 2020-08-11 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Some Questions
  113. 2020-08-11 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Question to local hosted demo
  114. 2020-08-11 EURAFRI Networking - Karl <karl-at-eurafri.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Some Questions
  115. 2020-08-11 EURAFRI Networking - Karl <karl-at-eurafri.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Question to local hosted demo
  116. 2020-08-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] great listen,--
  117. 2020-08-14 Sergey Poznyakoff <gray-at-gnu.org.ua> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] mailutils-3.10 released [stable]
  118. 2020-08-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hooray
  119. 2020-08-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Confusing
  120. 2020-08-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Race identification Software
  121. 2020-08-15 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Canon "Mega tank" printers with Linux
  122. 2020-08-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Canon "Mega tank" printers with Linux
  123. 2020-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] stop the bullshit now - child cases are not a
  124. 2020-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Brooklyn Politics getting heavy
  125. 2020-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Snoden Now
  126. 2020-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Postal Service and the Election
  127. 2020-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Media fear Mongering and LIEING headlines from PBS
  128. 2020-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] time to end the china sham
  129. 2020-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] fun and theatrics
  130. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] a complete breakdown
  131. 2020-08-16 Hebcal <noreply-at-hebcal.userecho.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Candle Lighting Times
  132. 2020-08-17 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #473 - What would you like to read
  133. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] age and COVID-19
  134. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] U.S. Coronavirus Forecasts Offer Somber Outlook,
  135. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Covid-19 NEVER going away... now what?
  136. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] South Korea's COVID-19 Miracle proves to also be
  137. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] crime pays - who thunk it
  138. 2020-08-17 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] subway propaganda war | | "MASK ON,
  139. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Guggenheim Museum Diversity, Equity, Access,
  140. 2020-08-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Guggenheim Museum Diversity, Equity, Access,
  141. 2020-08-17 facebook <facebook-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] subway propaganda war | | "MASK ON,
  142. 2020-08-18 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  143. 2020-08-19 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Tryton client connections
  144. 2020-08-18 Yusif Suleiman <yusifsuleiman-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Tryton client connections
  145. 2020-08-19 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] subway propaganda war | | "MASK ON,
  146. 2020-08-19 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  147. 2020-08-19 Doug Lytle <support-at-drdos.info> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  148. 2020-08-19 Rob Dyke <robdyke-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] LiveCD / demo database request
  149. 2020-08-19 Rob Dyke <robdyke-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] LiveCD / demo database request
  150. 2020-08-19 Doug Lytle <support-at-drdos.info> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  151. 2020-08-19 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  152. 2020-08-19 Rob Dyke <robdyke-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] LiveCD / demo database request
  153. 2020-08-20 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <learn-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Learn More About Our Upcoming Fall Session
  154. 2020-08-20 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] A Historic Time In History, Use Your Voice NOW
  155. 2020-08-20 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Submit your session for LibrePlanet 2021 before
  156. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?b?4oCcRkVNQSwgSSdkIHJhdGhlciBkbyBidXNp?=
  157. 2020-08-21 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Today, see comets up close!
  158. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Cuomo to Trump - get a mask, while unmasked...
  159. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Made up Sunset Park emergency
  160. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Coney Island is being killed by COVID-19 response.
  161. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Mail Order Election Fraud
  162. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] WUHAN-19 Costs
  163. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] bastions of Conservative Immergants...
  164. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The very real death of NYC culture
  165. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] defunding the police - in seatle fails to impress
  166. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] after a series of failures - finally the FDA is
  167. 2020-08-21 Doug Lytle <support-at-drdos.info> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  168. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lebanon's free fall collapse will echo for
  169. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] cyberwars in full gear
  170. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Mar 2019 - Who needs hospitals? Not Cuomo..
  171. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Who needs hostials - STILL ... Today not last
  172. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lack of Policing makes crime rise? Who knew?
  173. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Black Lives really DO matter... Minories and
  174. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The sumartion of Cuomo's death toll added to
  175. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] US Postal Service and Elections
  176. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Learning from the Enemy Camp and the Value of
  177. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Trumps Words - The right to decide for yourself..
  178. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The economy is not coming back... suprise.
  179. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hezbolah and Lebanon
  180. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Keep your friends closer..
  181. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Chinese technological threat and recruitment
  182. 2020-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] hacking wars in the covid-19 period
  183. 2020-08-10 Boris Reitman <boris.reitman-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Tree Table
  184. 2020-08-23 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  185. 2020-08-23 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] GNU Health 3.6.4 install errors
  186. 2020-08-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] closed platform means closed!
  187. 2020-08-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Cost of Unemployment - Europe and the US
  188. 2020-08-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How nyc is emparing economic recorvy over petty
  189. 2020-08-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] stimulating the Chinese economy with US money
  190. 2020-08-24 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #474 - Perl and Docker
  191. 2020-08-25 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Taking a Moment to Pause & Reflect
  192. 2020-08-25 ruth02-at-web.de Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Tree Table --> How many minutes to build it
  193. 2020-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Tree Table --> How many minutes to build it
  194. 2020-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] current schedule out of Sheepshead Bay
  195. 2020-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The massive layoffs are now starting - American
  196. 2020-08-26 Adam Richter <adamrichter4-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] Impedements to libpng-1.7.0
  197. 2020-08-26 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  198. 2020-08-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] to top off a perfectly terrible month...
  199. 2020-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Insurance Company Windfalls
  200. 2020-08-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Perl is not quite dead yet
  201. 2020-08-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?news_worth_reporting_-_Pyongyang?=
  202. 2020-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] AI challenge
  203. 2020-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Opinion | Cuomo Gets a Nursing Home Inspectio
  204. 2020-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] WHO failure
  205. 2020-08-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] me politics
  206. 2020-08-31 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #475 - Perl jobs? Perl events?
  207. 2020-08-31 NCPA eCommunications <ncpa.ecommunications-at-ncpanet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] NCPA pushes House committee to address mail order
  208. 2020-08-31 From: "Donald Robertson, III, DBD" <info-at-defectivebydesign.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The DMCA could use an update,

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