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DATE | 2020-07-20 |
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [dinosaur] Prehistoric Road Trip, Tiny Teeth,
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I am calling you out:
>That is using statsitics to lie. First of all, I only watched the first episode, and that was enough. I'm not counting stage hands here. There was one man given any time in the show at all and only because he was married to the person being actually interviewed. That is enough to not waste time watching any other episodes and what you wrote is gross misrepresentation.
>Convienently you skipped episode one.
In episode one they featured Cary Woodruff, and specifically did animation to show his work on diplodocid ontogeny.
Also, the featured several sequences with J.P. Cavigelli, who in paleo social media is largely credited with the best lines in the series.
So you were either a) inattentive while watching (no crime in that) or b) are lying.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:06 PM aviva wrote:
> On 7/20/20 1:56 PM, Liz M wrote: > > In case anyone is wondering, I counted the people interviewed in > > episodes 2 and 3 (I can=E2=80=99t see episode 1 anymore sadly). I mean = why not > > get some numbers to back up the claims of bigotry and sidelining of men? > > > > Episode 2: 10 men, 4 women. > > > > Episode 3: 8 men, 7 women. > > > > And there you have it. > > > That is using statsitics to lie. First of all, I only watched the first > episode, and that was enough. I'm not counting stage hands here. There > was one man given any time in the show at all and only because he was > married to the person being actually interviewed. That is enough to not > waste time watching any other episodes and what you wrote is gross > misrepresentation. > > > Convienently you skipped episode one. > > > > > > > I didn=E2=80=99t count the presenter obviously because well that doesn= =E2=80=99t make > > sense. That=E2=80=99s all I=E2=80=99m going to say on this. One might s= ay that the > > numbers don=E2=80=99t lie. > > > > You mean except when the are in the hands of a radical protagonist who > is doing her best to misrepresent the facts? > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On 20 Jul 2020, at 18:50, Anthony wrote: > >> > >> =EF=BB=BF > >> > >> >>> it is to show something of process of discovery being made and the > >> >>> people making it in the places she grew up. Full stop. > >> > > >> > >umm, that is not what the show is about, by your own admission. > >> It was > >> > >about stuffing as many white women as possible into a paleo > >> documentary. > >> > >> >Just to clarify=E2=80=A6 are you honestly aggrieved that there were t= oo many > >> paleontologists in a paleontology documentary? > >> >I=E2=80=99ve heard a lot of weird arguments over the years, but that= =E2=80=99s a new > >> one. > >> >=E2=80=94MBH > >> > >> *nods* > >> Ranks up there with some folks earlier in this conversation thread > >> being upset that a documentary series about the fossil history of a > >> few neighboring states, would opt to talk with the paleontologists > >> who work in those states. > >> > >
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I am calling you out:
= >That is using statsitics to lie.=C2=A0 First of all, I only watched the= first episode, and that was enough.=C2=A0 I'm not counting stage = hands here.=C2=A0 There was one man given any time in the show at all an= d only because he was married to the person being actually interviewed.= =C2=A0 That is enough to not waste time watching any other episodes and = what you wrote is gross misrepresentation. >Convienently you s= kipped episode one.
In episode one the= y featured Cary Woodruff, and specifically did animation to show his work o= n diplodocid ontogeny.
Also, the featured several = sequences with J.P. Cavigelli, who in paleo social media is largely=C2=A0cr= edited with the best lines in the series.
So you w= ere either a) inattentive while watching (no crime in that) or b) are lying= .
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style= :solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 7/20/20 1:56= PM, Liz M wrote:
> In case anyone is wondering, I counted the people interviewed in
> episodes 2 and 3 (I can=E2=80=99t see episode 1 anymore sadly). I mean= why not
> get some numbers to back up the claims of bigotry and sidelining of me= n?=C2=A0
>
> Episode 2: 10 men, 4 women.
>
> Episode 3: 8 men, 7 women.
>
> And there you have it.
That is using statsitics to lie.=C2=A0 First of all, I only watched the fir= st
episode, and that was enough.=C2=A0 I'm not counting stage hands here.= =C2=A0 There
was one man given any time in the show at all and only because he was
married to the person being actually interviewed.=C2=A0 That is enough to n= ot
waste time watching any other episodes and what you wrote is gross
misrepresentation.
Convienently you skipped episode one.
>
> I didn=E2=80=99t count the presenter obviously because well that doesn= =E2=80=99t make
> sense. That=E2=80=99s all I=E2=80=99m going to say on this. One might = say that the
> numbers don=E2=80=99t lie.
>
You mean except when the are in the hands of a radical protagonist who
is doing her best to misrepresent the facts?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 20 Jul 2020, at 18:50, Anthony <mail.com" target=3D"_blank">keenir-at-hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>>
>> >>> it is to show something of process of discovery being= made and the
>> >>> people making it in the places she grew up. Full stop= .
>> >
>> > >umm, that is not what the show is about, by your own admi= ssion.=C2=A0=C2=A0
>> It was
>> > >about stuffing as many white women as possible into a pal= eo
>> documentary.
>>
>> >Just to clarify=E2=80=A6 are you honestly aggrieved that there= were too many
>> paleontologists in a paleontology documentary?
>> >I=E2=80=99ve heard a lot of weird arguments over the years, bu= t that=E2=80=99s a new
>> one.
>> >=E2=80=94MBH
>>
>> *nods*
>> Ranks up there with some folks earlier in this conversation thread=
>> being upset that a documentary series about the fossil history of = a
>> few neighboring states, would opt to talk with the paleontologists=
>> who work in those states.
>>
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I am calling you out:
>That is using statsitics to lie. First of all, I only watched the first episode, and that was enough. I'm not counting stage hands here. There was one man given any time in the show at all and only because he was married to the person being actually interviewed. That is enough to not waste time watching any other episodes and what you wrote is gross misrepresentation.
>Convienently you skipped episode one.
In episode one they featured Cary Woodruff, and specifically did animation to show his work on diplodocid ontogeny.
Also, the featured several sequences with J.P. Cavigelli, who in paleo social media is largely credited with the best lines in the series.
So you were either a) inattentive while watching (no crime in that) or b) are lying.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:06 PM aviva wrote:
> On 7/20/20 1:56 PM, Liz M wrote: > > In case anyone is wondering, I counted the people interviewed in > > episodes 2 and 3 (I can=E2=80=99t see episode 1 anymore sadly). I mean = why not > > get some numbers to back up the claims of bigotry and sidelining of men? > > > > Episode 2: 10 men, 4 women. > > > > Episode 3: 8 men, 7 women. > > > > And there you have it. > > > That is using statsitics to lie. First of all, I only watched the first > episode, and that was enough. I'm not counting stage hands here. There > was one man given any time in the show at all and only because he was > married to the person being actually interviewed. That is enough to not > waste time watching any other episodes and what you wrote is gross > misrepresentation. > > > Convienently you skipped episode one. > > > > > > > I didn=E2=80=99t count the presenter obviously because well that doesn= =E2=80=99t make > > sense. That=E2=80=99s all I=E2=80=99m going to say on this. One might s= ay that the > > numbers don=E2=80=99t lie. > > > > You mean except when the are in the hands of a radical protagonist who > is doing her best to misrepresent the facts? > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On 20 Jul 2020, at 18:50, Anthony wrote: > >> > >> =EF=BB=BF > >> > >> >>> it is to show something of process of discovery being made and the > >> >>> people making it in the places she grew up. Full stop. > >> > > >> > >umm, that is not what the show is about, by your own admission. > >> It was > >> > >about stuffing as many white women as possible into a paleo > >> documentary. > >> > >> >Just to clarify=E2=80=A6 are you honestly aggrieved that there were t= oo many > >> paleontologists in a paleontology documentary? > >> >I=E2=80=99ve heard a lot of weird arguments over the years, but that= =E2=80=99s a new > >> one. > >> >=E2=80=94MBH > >> > >> *nods* > >> Ranks up there with some folks earlier in this conversation thread > >> being upset that a documentary series about the fossil history of a > >> few neighboring states, would opt to talk with the paleontologists > >> who work in those states. > >> > >
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Thomas R. Holtz, Jr. Email: tholtz-at-umd.edu Phone: 301-405-4084 Principal Lecturer, Vertebrate Paleontology
Office: Geology 4106, 8000 Regents Dr., College Park MD 20742
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I am calling you out:
= >That is using statsitics to lie.=C2=A0 First of all, I only watched the= first episode, and that was enough.=C2=A0 I'm not counting stage = hands here.=C2=A0 There was one man given any time in the show at all an= d only because he was married to the person being actually interviewed.= =C2=A0 That is enough to not waste time watching any other episodes and = what you wrote is gross misrepresentation. >Convienently you s= kipped episode one.
In episode one the= y featured Cary Woodruff, and specifically did animation to show his work o= n diplodocid ontogeny.
Also, the featured several = sequences with J.P. Cavigelli, who in paleo social media is largely=C2=A0cr= edited with the best lines in the series.
So you w= ere either a) inattentive while watching (no crime in that) or b) are lying= .
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style= :solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 7/20/20 1:56= PM, Liz M wrote:
> In case anyone is wondering, I counted the people interviewed in
> episodes 2 and 3 (I can=E2=80=99t see episode 1 anymore sadly). I mean= why not
> get some numbers to back up the claims of bigotry and sidelining of me= n?=C2=A0
>
> Episode 2: 10 men, 4 women.
>
> Episode 3: 8 men, 7 women.
>
> And there you have it.
That is using statsitics to lie.=C2=A0 First of all, I only watched the fir= st
episode, and that was enough.=C2=A0 I'm not counting stage hands here.= =C2=A0 There
was one man given any time in the show at all and only because he was
married to the person being actually interviewed.=C2=A0 That is enough to n= ot
waste time watching any other episodes and what you wrote is gross
misrepresentation.
Convienently you skipped episode one.
>
> I didn=E2=80=99t count the presenter obviously because well that doesn= =E2=80=99t make
> sense. That=E2=80=99s all I=E2=80=99m going to say on this. One might = say that the
> numbers don=E2=80=99t lie.
>
You mean except when the are in the hands of a radical protagonist who
is doing her best to misrepresent the facts?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 20 Jul 2020, at 18:50, Anthony <mail.com" target=3D"_blank">keenir-at-hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
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>> >>> it is to show something of process of discovery being= made and the
>> >>> people making it in the places she grew up. Full stop= .
>> >
>> > >umm, that is not what the show is about, by your own admi= ssion.=C2=A0=C2=A0
>> It was
>> > >about stuffing as many white women as possible into a pal= eo
>> documentary.
>>
>> >Just to clarify=E2=80=A6 are you honestly aggrieved that there= were too many
>> paleontologists in a paleontology documentary?
>> >I=E2=80=99ve heard a lot of weird arguments over the years, bu= t that=E2=80=99s a new
>> one.
>> >=E2=80=94MBH
>>
>> *nods*
>> Ranks up there with some folks earlier in this conversation thread=
>> being upset that a documentary series about the fossil history of = a
>> few neighboring states, would opt to talk with the paleontologists=
>> who work in those states.
>>
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