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| DATE | 2020-05-03 |
| FROM | Keren Ahava
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Regarding your remarks
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Ruben,
One of the hospitals in NYC is seriously looking at the issue of clotting. The physician I spoke with was told to keep their lips sealed, and they signed disclosures not to reveal what they are doing.
By they are not intubating patients and they are looking at the patients that were on plavix who never developed clots and who were sick with Corona but never intubated.
The nurse that was on this feed said her hospital was not intubating and they were putting patients on heparin drips and hi flow O2.
Just as a side note, I met a woman yesterday whose husband passed away April 6th, and she was being tested for exposure and for antibodies. Unfortunately her husband was one of the patients who were intubated immediately, and he suffered and died from the coronavirus very quickly. This was at Cornell. Weil Presbyterian.
I don’t know anyone there directly, but it would be very interesting to know if they’ve changed their protocol. They were one of the Manhatan hospitals that initially saw many corona patients.
I think there was so much fear in the beginning and no thought was being given as to why the shortness of breath was occurring. It was just assumed that corona was an upper respiratory infection.
Fortunately some very good diagnostics have emerged from this.
Out of something tragic will hopefully emerge some light.
I hope that more people will get tested for antibodies since the exposure to corona does not lead to everyone getting sick.
It would help to relieve the anxiety and allow people to go back to living their lives with some semblance of normalcy.
Shavua tov
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> On May 3, 2020, at 5:52 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 08:41:11PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>> Quoting Keren Ahava (kerens3ts-at-aol.com):
>>
>>> You are the one that stated that I made a quote....
>>
>> No. I guess, read it again?
>>
>> It's not hard to figure out that you shouldn't send obvious
>> disinformation around with zero effort to check it. But you're not
>> getting it.
>>
>> OK, fine. Have a great $Thing.
>>
>>> If you want to end the discussion of covid and the breakthrough
>>> treatments, feel free to remove yourself.
>>
>> 'Remove myself', that's rich. Ruben started sending me CCs, and
>> you continued them.
>>
>> He says you're a friend of yours and respects your views. Which is fine.
>> I hope that works out.
>
> To be fair, I created this list and shared the works, which is usually
> considered to be bad form, so I am a bored, again.
>
> If anyone really wants out I have removed them. I would like to get
> some different opinions from people I trust together, and everyone on
> the list, accept Rick, is actually a healthcare professional, mostly on
> the Doctor's level, all with decades of real patient care expereince.
>
> Keren's very profession. He views really shouldn't be viewed as
> disinformation. Within the medical profession, we really do not do
> that. We give credit to the little initials after the name.
>
> In this case, my research supports her observation. Pts are dieing from
> clotting in the lungs. It is in the literature of SARs, even in ME SARS
> and there is some discussion about alternative therapies involving
> thombolytics. I haven't yet read a protocol, proposed or tried, that is
> yet centered on this pathophyiological trend. I'll call the medical
> library at LIU on Monday.
>
> Ruben
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