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DATE | 2020-04-29 |
FROM | George Moskowitz MD
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] good thing they are rushing (the vaccines)
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Beautiful...Detailed...and (sad to say) utterly refreshing to read the Truth.
Your writings are creating a Target ( you and those who are awake and conscious) of the venomous "leaders" chosen by us.
The solutions seem to require a radical approach. The problem is that we are in Crisis. The Crisis of the Me not the We generation.
A pleasure for me to read your detailed article. Thank you.
Today we are living (again as the historian would repeat) within very dangerous and destructive times.
Where is Moshe Rabbeinu?
Humbly and Silent...Dr George
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 2:22 AM Ruben Safir wrote:
> > Side note to Liz - > I've been told today that Pharmacists aren't experts on vaccinations so > our opinion doesn't hold much weight.... > > Just for reference, I point out the paper that Liz and I wrong on > http://www.brooklyn-living.com/ > > to continue on this thread... > > On to Karen... > > On 4/28/20 8:09 PM, Karen Perilman wrote: > > =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF > > =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BFRuben, > > It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s been a long time since we spoke, > > That is your fault! I periodically send you email :) > > > And I must tell you, this message you sent came as a surprise, > > Call me when you have time 718-715-1771 > > > > > First of all, the patients that were first largely infected in Europe, > Italy and Spain were knee jerk treated with intubation and ventilation. > > I say knee jerk, because never before had they seen so many people with > the same symptoms in mass like this. > > > > Never mind the Chinese allowed 5 million INFECTED people to leave China > up to Jan 20th and go to work in Italy and Spain, the fashion center. > > How do i know, because my daughter is the head senior designer for wome= n > in Spain for the company Zara. They have so many Chinese working there, > and their industry is in the HUB of China. > > > > And in October 18-19th the International militaries all met in Wuhan fo= r > the WUhan games for 100 COUNTRIES. ANd when the games were over, all > those 100 countries became infected..... > > > > Now, go back to where we were.... > > All these people presenting with Shortness of breath we MISDIAGNOSED > FROM THE GET GO. > > WHy do I say this, because maybe you forgot I am an anesthetist. > > > I haven't forgotten anything. Are you in New York now? > > > The presentation of SOB was way off the standards of evaluation for SOB= . > > The Corona is a virus that spread thru droplets as does EVERY OTHER > VIRUS. > > But we never reacted like this before. > > I say this until I am blue in the face. We have NEVER reacted like this > to even Small Pox!! > > > > Here is why we shouldn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t have. > > I spoke with the head oncologist at a NY Cancer hospital.... > > I also spoke with the head neurologist at Northwell Hospitals and all o= f > us said the same thing. > > > > We've been working with St Barbaus and they just said the same thing in > the NY Post today,, > > > The SOB from Corona patients was unlike a person with pneumonia or ARDS= . > > Patients were talking and even on the phones, and showing low Puse OX > readings. > > In Italy they didn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t have the time to asses as t= hey were barraged with > patients, > > They ran out of ventilators when that was ACTUALLY what was killing > people. > > Sick lungs under PEEP and ventilation only causes more problems and > patients vaso constrict and organs shut down, and FAST, especially in th= e > elderly. > > This I didn't know and I don't understand. The ICU is packed in the > Bronx with people on vents undergoing ID evaluation. In the end, there > is not much I can do for them other than take the states and track > infection. Infection contol on the floors is the biggest problem we have= . > > > > > But in the US, NO ONE took the time to look at the reason people were > SOB and they ASSUMED it was a viral infection, Corona..... > > > > BIG MISTAKE! > > Now, looking back, we know now, that after autopsies, the patients lung= s > and bodies were filled with CLOTS!!! > > Bilateral Granularity on the Xrays. We don't even need testing for > this. It is a presumptive diagnosis already. > > The patients were actually acting like someone with pulmonary embolism. > The clots killed people with heart attacks and Strokes!!!! > > > > So where did this information take the doctors who were in the know. > > In NY and the UK, they started realizing that the patients who were on > blood thinners and anti inflammatories had NO clots and they were mildly > sick and got better. > > > Those patients, in particular were Cancer patients who as you know are > compromised immunologically. > > > > I have data clearly showing me that pts on Chemo and with advanced > cancer don't survive this. They won't even ventolate those patients at > this point. So please explain this further. > > BTW - the virus attacks clotting factors, and causes prolong PT times, > but frankly, that is common with cytosine storms, so I am not convinced > of that data. > > > They tested the patients clotting times and saw the proof in the blood. > > Waiting for a vaccine to kill a virus that will be obsolete in a year i= s > ridiculous when we know how to treat the patients NOW. > > > > If someone presents to the ER with SOB, they should have been assessed > to rule out for clots. > > > > A retro study, and a study that moves forward should be done immediatel= y, > > BUT because the cure for the clots is CHEAP, no one is going to > recommend ASPIRIN or Azithromycin because they won=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84= =A2t be able to make > MONEY. > > > > This has been a recurring problem. It is almost like they are purposely > misusing Hydroxychloroquin, which can only work in the early phase of > the disease, in order to make way for other thearpies, and those > therapies, Remdesivir, Kaletra, Nitazoxanide, Tocilizumab, etc. All of > them cost over $2K per treatment. My friend Maya, who is a PharmD, she > was big on this point. They are not acting in a way that is consistant > with a disease that shuts down civilization. They are telling us we are > in moral danger and the numbers don't bare it out and they aren't acting > like it is that serious. > > > The mayor NY and the governor are 100% assholes. > > We have NEVER quarantined in the history of illness HEALTHY PEOPLE!! > > Sick people yes, and they should be isolated at home. > > It is unbelievable. Never in my lifetime could I have ever imagined this= . > > > > If you go to any NY hospital now in the city, if you show ANY signs of > SOB you are intubated and you DIE!!!! They do not resuscitate anyone > suspected of corona!! > > That=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s insane..... If the reason people are dyin= g are the clots, they > NO ONE should be intubated and they should emergently be give blood > thinners. > > > > The elderly are being treated like disposable spoilers of this virus. > They die alone and it=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s criminal. > > > > How do you then prevent an anurism.. > > > > I will not fall for the BS of waiting for a vaccine, because patients > being treated right now with the new paradigm are surviving and getting > better quicker. > > > > No patient population compares to the cancer patients who were found to > be Safe from the extreme sickness of Corona because so many of their > patients were on blood thinners. > > The evidence is there. > > Even the Young patients that died, died from Strokes.!!! > > No one is talking about the patients that contracted corona who were > described as =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93healthy=C3=A2=E2=82=AC who SMOKE; it i= s a joke. Smokers are NOT > healthy, not if they smoke anything, pot, vaping or cigarettes. > > I see people on the streets with masks and gloves SMOKING and it=C3=A2= =E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s a > joke. > > THey are blowing Corona and adding to the contaminating of all of us. > > I see people wearing masks and gloves throwing them in the streets, not > using them properly, and I tell them, will all this costuming, they would > never be allowed in the ICU to work because they have no idea how to used > sterile masks and gloves. > > > > If you want to be mad, get mad with the medical system in NY fueled by > political idiots that want to see the economy fail, so they can blame > politics. > > Even Fauci, that =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93Statistician=C3=A2=E2=82=AC is o= ut of the loop. He hasn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t > practiced medicine in 20 yrs!! And he is nothing but an accountant for t= he > numbers that other people give him. > > > > THis is BS, I don=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t give a shit about politics.= .. > > I do care that we are being used for this political experiment. > > > 100% > > > > The economy should have NEVER been shut down. > > > A strong economy is our leading weapon to fight the disease. > > > > It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s laughable that all the markets and stores t= hat are open are > crowded and no one has stopped shopping. > > > > Maybe they should try putting the voter machines in Target or > Walmart..... > > Then we could vote out these morons that crashed our economy when the > answer to save people was right under our noses. > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >> > >> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF > >> We wouldn't want to distribute anything until we are absolutely sure i= t > >> is safe, because WTF!! 11K are already dead in NYC alone and 23millio= n > >> are on indefinite lockdown! > >> > >> Take your time boys. Make sure you get it right.. > >> > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> Wall Street Journal today: > >> > >> Pfizer could start distributing a possible vaccine on an emergency bas= is > >> in the fall if all testing proves successful. > >> Photo: Sipa USA via AP > >> By Jared S. Hopkins > >> April 28, 2020 1:14 pm ET > >> > >> Pfizer Inc. PFE -1.10% said Tuesday it could have a coronavirus vaccin= e > >> ready for use on an emergency basis in the fall if it proves to work > >> safely in testing. > >> > >> Testing of the vaccine, which has already started in Germany, could > >> start in the U.S. as early as next week if health regulators sign off, > >> Pfizer Chief Executive Albert Bourla said in an interview. Results fro= m > >> the study could come as early as next month, Mr. Bourla said. > >> > >> Pfizer would need to do more testing to make sure the vaccine works > >> safely. If all testing proves successful, Pfizer could start > >> distributing the vaccine on an emergency basis in the fall and receive > >> approval for widespread distribution by year=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s = end, Mr. Bourla said. > >> > >> =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93This is a crisis right now, and a solution is des= perately needed by > >> all,=C3=A2=E2=82=AC Mr. Bourla said. > >> -- > >> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > >> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > >> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > >> http://www.mrbrklyn.com > >> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > >> > >> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > >> http://www.brooklyn-living.com > >> > >> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > >> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > > > -- > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > http://www.mrbrklyn.com > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www.brooklyn-living.com > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 >
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Beautiful...Detailed...and (sad to say) utterly refreshin= g to read the Truth.=C2=A0
You= r writings are creating a Target ( you and those who are awake and consciou= s) of=C2=A0 the venomous "leaders"=C2=A0 chosen by us.=C2=A0 >
The solutions seem to requir= e a radical approach.=C2=A0 The problem is that we are in Crisis.=C2=A0 The= Crisis of the Me not the We generation.=C2=A0 <= /div> A pleasure for me to read your detailed article. Tha= nk you.=C2=A0
Today we a= re living=C2=A0 (again as the historian would repeat) within very dangerous= and destructive times.=C2=A0
auto">Where is Moshe Rabbeinu?=C2=A0
dir=3D"auto">Humbly and Silent...Dr George=C2=A0 =3D"gmail_quote"> margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Side note to Liz -
I've been told today that Pharmacists aren't experts on vaccination= s so
our opinion doesn't hold much weight....
Just for reference, I point out the paper that Liz and I wrong on
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.brooklyn-living.com/
to continue on this thread...
On to Karen...
On 4/28/20 8:09 PM, Karen Perilman wrote:
> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BFRuben,
> It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s been a long time since we spoke,
That is your fault!=C2=A0 I periodically send you email :)
> And I must tell you, this message you sent came as a surprise,
Call me when you have time 718-715-1771
>
> First of all, the patients that were first largely infected in Europe,= Italy and Spain were knee jerk treated with intubation and ventilation. > > I say knee jerk, because never before had they seen so many people wit= h the same symptoms in mass like this.
>
> Never mind the Chinese allowed 5 million INFECTED people to leave Chin= a up to Jan 20th and go to work in Italy and Spain, the fashion center.
> How do i know, because my daughter is the head senior designer for wom= en in Spain for the company Zara.=C2=A0 =C2=A0They have so many Chinese wor= king there, and their industry is in the HUB of China.
>
> And in October 18-19th the International militaries all met in Wuhan f= or the WUhan games for 100 COUNTRIES.=C2=A0 =C2=A0ANd when the games were o= ver, all those 100 countries became infected.....=C2=A0
>
> Now, go back to where we were....
> All these people presenting with Shortness of breath we MISDIAGNOSED F= ROM THE GET GO.
> WHy do I say this, because maybe you forgot I am an anesthetist.
I haven't forgotten anything.=C2=A0 Are you in New York now?
> The presentation of SOB was way off the standards of evaluation for SO= B.
> The Corona is a virus that spread thru droplets as does EVERY OTHER VI= RUS.
> But we never reacted like this before.
I say this until I am blue in the face.=C2=A0 We have NEVER reacted like th= is
to even Small Pox!!
> Here is why we shouldn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t have.
> I spoke with the head oncologist at a NY Cancer hospital....
> I also spoke with the head neurologist at Northwell Hospitals and all = of us said the same thing.
>
We've been working with St Barbaus and they just said the same thing in=
the NY Post today,,
> The SOB from Corona patients was unlike a person with pneumonia or ARD= S.
> Patients were talking and even on the phones, and showing low Puse OX = readings.
> In Italy they didn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t have the time to asses as = they were barraged with patients,
> They ran out of ventilators when that was ACTUALLY what was killing pe= ople.
> Sick lungs under PEEP and ventilation only causes more problems and pa= tients vaso constrict and organs shut down,=C2=A0 and FAST, especially in t= he elderly.
This I didn't know and I don't understand.=C2=A0 The ICU is packed = in the
Bronx with people on vents undergoing ID evaluation.=C2=A0 In the end, ther= e
is not much I can do for them other than take the states and track
infection.=C2=A0 Infection contol on the floors is the biggest problem we h= ave.
>
> But in the US, NO ONE took the time to look at the reason people were = SOB and they ASSUMED it was a viral infection, Corona.....
>
> BIG MISTAKE!
> Now, looking back, we know now, that after autopsies, the patients lun= gs and bodies were filled with CLOTS!!!=C2=A0
Bilateral Granularity on the Xrays.=C2=A0 We don't even need testing fo= r
this.=C2=A0 It is a presumptive diagnosis already.
The patients were actually acting like someone with pulmonary embolism.
The clots killed people with heart attacks and Strokes!!!!
>
> So where did this information take the doctors who were in the know.r> > In NY and the UK, they started realizing that the patients who were on= blood thinners and anti inflammatories had NO clots and they were mildly s= ick and got better.
> Those patients, in particular were Cancer patients who as you know are= compromised immunologically.
>
I have data clearly showing me that pts on Chemo and with advanced
cancer don't survive this.=C2=A0 They won't even ventolate those pa= tients at
this point.=C2=A0 So please explain this further.
BTW - the virus attacks clotting factors, and causes prolong PT times,
but frankly, that is common with cytosine storms, so I am not convinced
of that data.
> They tested the patients clotting times and saw the proof in the blood= .
> Waiting for a vaccine to kill a virus that will be obsolete in a year = is ridiculous when we know how to treat the patients NOW.
>
> If someone presents to the ER with SOB, they should have been assessed= to rule out for=C2=A0 clots.
>
> A retro study, and a study that moves forward should be done immediate= ly,
> BUT because the cure for the clots is CHEAP, no one is going to recomm= end ASPIRIN or Azithromycin because they won=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t be ab= le to make MONEY.
>
This has been a recurring problem.=C2=A0 It is almost like they are purpose= ly
misusing Hydroxychloroquin, which can only work in the early phase of
the disease, in order to make way for other thearpies, and those
therapies, Remdesivir, Kaletra, Nitazoxanide, Tocilizumab, etc.=C2=A0 All o= f
them cost over $2K per treatment.=C2=A0 My friend Maya, who is a PharmD, sh= e
was big on this point. They are not acting in a way that is consistant
with a disease that shuts down civilization.=C2=A0 They are telling us we a= re
in moral danger and the numbers don't bare it out and they aren't a= cting
like it is that serious.
> The mayor NY and the governor are 100% assholes.
> We have NEVER quarantined in the history of illness HEALTHY PEOPLE!!r> > Sick people yes, and they should be isolated at home.
It is unbelievable.=C2=A0 Never in my lifetime could I have ever imagined t= his.
> If you go to any NY hospital now in the city,=C2=A0 if you show ANY si= gns of SOB you are intubated and you DIE!!!!=C2=A0 They do not resuscitate = anyone suspected of corona!!
> That=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s insane..... If the reason people are dyi= ng are the clots, they NO ONE should be intubated and they should emergentl= y be give blood thinners.
>
> The elderly are being treated like disposable spoilers of this virus.= =C2=A0 They die alone and it=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s criminal.
>
How do you then prevent an anurism..
> I will not fall for the BS of waiting for a vaccine, because patients = being treated right now with the new paradigm are surviving and getting bet= ter quicker.
>
> No patient population compares to the cancer patients who were found t= o be Safe from the extreme sickness of Corona because so many of their pati= ents were on blood thinners.=C2=A0
> The evidence is there.
> Even the Young patients that died, died from Strokes.!!!
> No one is talking about the patients that contracted corona who were d= escribed as =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93healthy=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2=A0 who SMOKE; it= is a joke.=C2=A0 Smokers are NOT healthy, not if they smoke anything,=C2= =A0 pot, vaping or cigarettes.
> I see people on the streets with masks and gloves SMOKING and it=C3=A2= =E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s a joke.
> THey are blowing Corona and adding to the contaminating of all of us.<= br> > I see people wearing masks and gloves throwing them in the streets, no= t using them properly, and I tell them, will all this costuming, they would= never be allowed in the ICU to work because they have no idea how to used = sterile masks and gloves.
>
> If you want to be mad, get mad with the medical system in NY fueled by= political idiots that want to see the economy fail, so they can blame poli= tics.
> Even Fauci, that =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93Statistician=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2= =A0 is out of the loop.=C2=A0 He hasn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t practiced me= dicine in 20 yrs!!=C2=A0 And he is nothing but an accountant for the number= s that other people give him.
>
> THis is BS,=C2=A0 I don=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t give a shit about pol= itics...
> I do care that we are being used for this political experiment.
100%
> The economy should have NEVER been shut down.
A strong economy is our leading weapon to fight the disease.
> It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s laughable that all the markets and stores = that are open are crowded and no one has stopped shopping.
>
> Maybe they should try putting the voter machines in Target or Walmart.= ....
> Then we could vote out these morons that crashed our economy when the = answer to save people was right under our noses.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Ruben Safir <en-at-mrbrklyn.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>> wrote:
>>
>> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
>> We wouldn't want to distribute anything until we are absolutel= y sure it
>> is safe, because WTF!!=C2=A0 11K are already dead in NYC alone and= 23million
>> are on indefinite lockdown!
>>
>> Take your time boys.=C2=A0 Make sure you get it right..
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~
>> Wall Street Journal today:
>>
>> Pfizer could start distributing a possible vaccine on an emergency= basis
>> in the fall if all testing proves successful.
>> Photo: Sipa USA via AP
>> By Jared S. Hopkins
>> April 28, 2020 1:14 pm ET
>>
>> Pfizer Inc. PFE -1.10% said Tuesday it could have a coronavirus va= ccine
>> ready for use on an emergency basis in the fall if it proves to wo= rk
>> safely in testing.
>>
>> Testing of the vaccine, which has already started in Germany, coul= d
>> start in the U.S. as early as next week if health regulators sign = off,
>> Pfizer Chief Executive Albert Bourla said in an interview. Results= from
>> the study could come as early as next month, Mr. Bourla said.
>>
>> Pfizer would need to do more testing to make sure the vaccine work= s
>> safely. If all testing proves successful, Pfizer could start
>> distributing the vaccine on an emergency basis in the fall and rec= eive
>> approval for widespread distribution by year=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84= =A2s end, Mr. Bourla said.
>>
>> =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93This is a crisis right now, and a solution is= desperately needed by
>> all,=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2=A0 Mr. Bourla said.
>> --
>> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
>> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
>> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>> target=3D"_blank">http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>>
>> get=3D"_blank">http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free So= ftware
>> errer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>>
>> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
>> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013=
--
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
"_blank">http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
lank">http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > rget=3D"_blank">http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
--000000000000c0c8e205a46c1749-- --===============0170090333== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout --===============0170090333==-- --===============0170090333== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c0c8e205a46c1749" --000000000000c0c8e205a46c1749 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beautiful...Detailed...and (sad to say) utterly refreshing to read the Truth. Your writings are creating a Target ( you and those who are awake and conscious) of the venomous "leaders" chosen by us. The solutions seem to require a radical approach. The problem is that we are in Crisis. The Crisis of the Me not the We generation. A pleasure for me to read your detailed article. Thank you. Today we are living (again as the historian would repeat) within very dangerous and destructive times. Where is Moshe Rabbeinu? Humbly and Silent...Dr George On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 2:22 AM Ruben Safir wrote:
> > Side note to Liz - > I've been told today that Pharmacists aren't experts on vaccinations so > our opinion doesn't hold much weight.... > > Just for reference, I point out the paper that Liz and I wrong on > http://www.brooklyn-living.com/ > > to continue on this thread... > > On to Karen... > > On 4/28/20 8:09 PM, Karen Perilman wrote: > > =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF > > =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BFRuben, > > It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s been a long time since we spoke, > > That is your fault! I periodically send you email :) > > > And I must tell you, this message you sent came as a surprise, > > Call me when you have time 718-715-1771 > > > > > First of all, the patients that were first largely infected in Europe, > Italy and Spain were knee jerk treated with intubation and ventilation. > > I say knee jerk, because never before had they seen so many people with > the same symptoms in mass like this. > > > > Never mind the Chinese allowed 5 million INFECTED people to leave China > up to Jan 20th and go to work in Italy and Spain, the fashion center. > > How do i know, because my daughter is the head senior designer for wome= n > in Spain for the company Zara. They have so many Chinese working there, > and their industry is in the HUB of China. > > > > And in October 18-19th the International militaries all met in Wuhan fo= r > the WUhan games for 100 COUNTRIES. ANd when the games were over, all > those 100 countries became infected..... > > > > Now, go back to where we were.... > > All these people presenting with Shortness of breath we MISDIAGNOSED > FROM THE GET GO. > > WHy do I say this, because maybe you forgot I am an anesthetist. > > > I haven't forgotten anything. Are you in New York now? > > > The presentation of SOB was way off the standards of evaluation for SOB= . > > The Corona is a virus that spread thru droplets as does EVERY OTHER > VIRUS. > > But we never reacted like this before. > > I say this until I am blue in the face. We have NEVER reacted like this > to even Small Pox!! > > > > Here is why we shouldn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t have. > > I spoke with the head oncologist at a NY Cancer hospital.... > > I also spoke with the head neurologist at Northwell Hospitals and all o= f > us said the same thing. > > > > We've been working with St Barbaus and they just said the same thing in > the NY Post today,, > > > The SOB from Corona patients was unlike a person with pneumonia or ARDS= . > > Patients were talking and even on the phones, and showing low Puse OX > readings. > > In Italy they didn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t have the time to asses as t= hey were barraged with > patients, > > They ran out of ventilators when that was ACTUALLY what was killing > people. > > Sick lungs under PEEP and ventilation only causes more problems and > patients vaso constrict and organs shut down, and FAST, especially in th= e > elderly. > > This I didn't know and I don't understand. The ICU is packed in the > Bronx with people on vents undergoing ID evaluation. In the end, there > is not much I can do for them other than take the states and track > infection. Infection contol on the floors is the biggest problem we have= . > > > > > But in the US, NO ONE took the time to look at the reason people were > SOB and they ASSUMED it was a viral infection, Corona..... > > > > BIG MISTAKE! > > Now, looking back, we know now, that after autopsies, the patients lung= s > and bodies were filled with CLOTS!!! > > Bilateral Granularity on the Xrays. We don't even need testing for > this. It is a presumptive diagnosis already. > > The patients were actually acting like someone with pulmonary embolism. > The clots killed people with heart attacks and Strokes!!!! > > > > So where did this information take the doctors who were in the know. > > In NY and the UK, they started realizing that the patients who were on > blood thinners and anti inflammatories had NO clots and they were mildly > sick and got better. > > > Those patients, in particular were Cancer patients who as you know are > compromised immunologically. > > > > I have data clearly showing me that pts on Chemo and with advanced > cancer don't survive this. They won't even ventolate those patients at > this point. So please explain this further. > > BTW - the virus attacks clotting factors, and causes prolong PT times, > but frankly, that is common with cytosine storms, so I am not convinced > of that data. > > > They tested the patients clotting times and saw the proof in the blood. > > Waiting for a vaccine to kill a virus that will be obsolete in a year i= s > ridiculous when we know how to treat the patients NOW. > > > > If someone presents to the ER with SOB, they should have been assessed > to rule out for clots. > > > > A retro study, and a study that moves forward should be done immediatel= y, > > BUT because the cure for the clots is CHEAP, no one is going to > recommend ASPIRIN or Azithromycin because they won=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84= =A2t be able to make > MONEY. > > > > This has been a recurring problem. It is almost like they are purposely > misusing Hydroxychloroquin, which can only work in the early phase of > the disease, in order to make way for other thearpies, and those > therapies, Remdesivir, Kaletra, Nitazoxanide, Tocilizumab, etc. All of > them cost over $2K per treatment. My friend Maya, who is a PharmD, she > was big on this point. They are not acting in a way that is consistant > with a disease that shuts down civilization. They are telling us we are > in moral danger and the numbers don't bare it out and they aren't acting > like it is that serious. > > > The mayor NY and the governor are 100% assholes. > > We have NEVER quarantined in the history of illness HEALTHY PEOPLE!! > > Sick people yes, and they should be isolated at home. > > It is unbelievable. Never in my lifetime could I have ever imagined this= . > > > > If you go to any NY hospital now in the city, if you show ANY signs of > SOB you are intubated and you DIE!!!! They do not resuscitate anyone > suspected of corona!! > > That=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s insane..... If the reason people are dyin= g are the clots, they > NO ONE should be intubated and they should emergently be give blood > thinners. > > > > The elderly are being treated like disposable spoilers of this virus. > They die alone and it=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s criminal. > > > > How do you then prevent an anurism.. > > > > I will not fall for the BS of waiting for a vaccine, because patients > being treated right now with the new paradigm are surviving and getting > better quicker. > > > > No patient population compares to the cancer patients who were found to > be Safe from the extreme sickness of Corona because so many of their > patients were on blood thinners. > > The evidence is there. > > Even the Young patients that died, died from Strokes.!!! > > No one is talking about the patients that contracted corona who were > described as =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93healthy=C3=A2=E2=82=AC who SMOKE; it i= s a joke. Smokers are NOT > healthy, not if they smoke anything, pot, vaping or cigarettes. > > I see people on the streets with masks and gloves SMOKING and it=C3=A2= =E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s a > joke. > > THey are blowing Corona and adding to the contaminating of all of us. > > I see people wearing masks and gloves throwing them in the streets, not > using them properly, and I tell them, will all this costuming, they would > never be allowed in the ICU to work because they have no idea how to used > sterile masks and gloves. > > > > If you want to be mad, get mad with the medical system in NY fueled by > political idiots that want to see the economy fail, so they can blame > politics. > > Even Fauci, that =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93Statistician=C3=A2=E2=82=AC is o= ut of the loop. He hasn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t > practiced medicine in 20 yrs!! And he is nothing but an accountant for t= he > numbers that other people give him. > > > > THis is BS, I don=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t give a shit about politics.= .. > > I do care that we are being used for this political experiment. > > > 100% > > > > The economy should have NEVER been shut down. > > > A strong economy is our leading weapon to fight the disease. > > > > It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s laughable that all the markets and stores t= hat are open are > crowded and no one has stopped shopping. > > > > Maybe they should try putting the voter machines in Target or > Walmart..... > > Then we could vote out these morons that crashed our economy when the > answer to save people was right under our noses. > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >> > >> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF > >> We wouldn't want to distribute anything until we are absolutely sure i= t > >> is safe, because WTF!! 11K are already dead in NYC alone and 23millio= n > >> are on indefinite lockdown! > >> > >> Take your time boys. Make sure you get it right.. > >> > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> Wall Street Journal today: > >> > >> Pfizer could start distributing a possible vaccine on an emergency bas= is > >> in the fall if all testing proves successful. > >> Photo: Sipa USA via AP > >> By Jared S. Hopkins > >> April 28, 2020 1:14 pm ET > >> > >> Pfizer Inc. PFE -1.10% said Tuesday it could have a coronavirus vaccin= e > >> ready for use on an emergency basis in the fall if it proves to work > >> safely in testing. > >> > >> Testing of the vaccine, which has already started in Germany, could > >> start in the U.S. as early as next week if health regulators sign off, > >> Pfizer Chief Executive Albert Bourla said in an interview. Results fro= m > >> the study could come as early as next month, Mr. Bourla said. > >> > >> Pfizer would need to do more testing to make sure the vaccine works > >> safely. If all testing proves successful, Pfizer could start > >> distributing the vaccine on an emergency basis in the fall and receive > >> approval for widespread distribution by year=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s = end, Mr. Bourla said. > >> > >> =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93This is a crisis right now, and a solution is des= perately needed by > >> all,=C3=A2=E2=82=AC Mr. Bourla said. > >> -- > >> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > >> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > >> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > >> http://www.mrbrklyn.com > >> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > >> > >> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > >> http://www.brooklyn-living.com > >> > >> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > >> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > > > -- > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > http://www.mrbrklyn.com > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www.brooklyn-living.com > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 >
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Beautiful...Detailed...and (sad to say) utterly refreshin= g to read the Truth.=C2=A0
You= r writings are creating a Target ( you and those who are awake and consciou= s) of=C2=A0 the venomous "leaders"=C2=A0 chosen by us.=C2=A0 >
The solutions seem to requir= e a radical approach.=C2=A0 The problem is that we are in Crisis.=C2=A0 The= Crisis of the Me not the We generation.=C2=A0 <= /div> A pleasure for me to read your detailed article. Tha= nk you.=C2=A0
Today we a= re living=C2=A0 (again as the historian would repeat) within very dangerous= and destructive times.=C2=A0
auto">Where is Moshe Rabbeinu?=C2=A0
dir=3D"auto">Humbly and Silent...Dr George=C2=A0 =3D"gmail_quote"> margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Side note to Liz -
I've been told today that Pharmacists aren't experts on vaccination= s so
our opinion doesn't hold much weight....
Just for reference, I point out the paper that Liz and I wrong on
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.brooklyn-living.com/
to continue on this thread...
On to Karen...
On 4/28/20 8:09 PM, Karen Perilman wrote:
> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BFRuben,
> It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s been a long time since we spoke,
That is your fault!=C2=A0 I periodically send you email :)
> And I must tell you, this message you sent came as a surprise,
Call me when you have time 718-715-1771
>
> First of all, the patients that were first largely infected in Europe,= Italy and Spain were knee jerk treated with intubation and ventilation. > > I say knee jerk, because never before had they seen so many people wit= h the same symptoms in mass like this.
>
> Never mind the Chinese allowed 5 million INFECTED people to leave Chin= a up to Jan 20th and go to work in Italy and Spain, the fashion center.
> How do i know, because my daughter is the head senior designer for wom= en in Spain for the company Zara.=C2=A0 =C2=A0They have so many Chinese wor= king there, and their industry is in the HUB of China.
>
> And in October 18-19th the International militaries all met in Wuhan f= or the WUhan games for 100 COUNTRIES.=C2=A0 =C2=A0ANd when the games were o= ver, all those 100 countries became infected.....=C2=A0
>
> Now, go back to where we were....
> All these people presenting with Shortness of breath we MISDIAGNOSED F= ROM THE GET GO.
> WHy do I say this, because maybe you forgot I am an anesthetist.
I haven't forgotten anything.=C2=A0 Are you in New York now?
> The presentation of SOB was way off the standards of evaluation for SO= B.
> The Corona is a virus that spread thru droplets as does EVERY OTHER VI= RUS.
> But we never reacted like this before.
I say this until I am blue in the face.=C2=A0 We have NEVER reacted like th= is
to even Small Pox!!
> Here is why we shouldn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t have.
> I spoke with the head oncologist at a NY Cancer hospital....
> I also spoke with the head neurologist at Northwell Hospitals and all = of us said the same thing.
>
We've been working with St Barbaus and they just said the same thing in=
the NY Post today,,
> The SOB from Corona patients was unlike a person with pneumonia or ARD= S.
> Patients were talking and even on the phones, and showing low Puse OX = readings.
> In Italy they didn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t have the time to asses as = they were barraged with patients,
> They ran out of ventilators when that was ACTUALLY what was killing pe= ople.
> Sick lungs under PEEP and ventilation only causes more problems and pa= tients vaso constrict and organs shut down,=C2=A0 and FAST, especially in t= he elderly.
This I didn't know and I don't understand.=C2=A0 The ICU is packed = in the
Bronx with people on vents undergoing ID evaluation.=C2=A0 In the end, ther= e
is not much I can do for them other than take the states and track
infection.=C2=A0 Infection contol on the floors is the biggest problem we h= ave.
>
> But in the US, NO ONE took the time to look at the reason people were = SOB and they ASSUMED it was a viral infection, Corona.....
>
> BIG MISTAKE!
> Now, looking back, we know now, that after autopsies, the patients lun= gs and bodies were filled with CLOTS!!!=C2=A0
Bilateral Granularity on the Xrays.=C2=A0 We don't even need testing fo= r
this.=C2=A0 It is a presumptive diagnosis already.
The patients were actually acting like someone with pulmonary embolism.
The clots killed people with heart attacks and Strokes!!!!
>
> So where did this information take the doctors who were in the know.r> > In NY and the UK, they started realizing that the patients who were on= blood thinners and anti inflammatories had NO clots and they were mildly s= ick and got better.
> Those patients, in particular were Cancer patients who as you know are= compromised immunologically.
>
I have data clearly showing me that pts on Chemo and with advanced
cancer don't survive this.=C2=A0 They won't even ventolate those pa= tients at
this point.=C2=A0 So please explain this further.
BTW - the virus attacks clotting factors, and causes prolong PT times,
but frankly, that is common with cytosine storms, so I am not convinced
of that data.
> They tested the patients clotting times and saw the proof in the blood= .
> Waiting for a vaccine to kill a virus that will be obsolete in a year = is ridiculous when we know how to treat the patients NOW.
>
> If someone presents to the ER with SOB, they should have been assessed= to rule out for=C2=A0 clots.
>
> A retro study, and a study that moves forward should be done immediate= ly,
> BUT because the cure for the clots is CHEAP, no one is going to recomm= end ASPIRIN or Azithromycin because they won=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t be ab= le to make MONEY.
>
This has been a recurring problem.=C2=A0 It is almost like they are purpose= ly
misusing Hydroxychloroquin, which can only work in the early phase of
the disease, in order to make way for other thearpies, and those
therapies, Remdesivir, Kaletra, Nitazoxanide, Tocilizumab, etc.=C2=A0 All o= f
them cost over $2K per treatment.=C2=A0 My friend Maya, who is a PharmD, sh= e
was big on this point. They are not acting in a way that is consistant
with a disease that shuts down civilization.=C2=A0 They are telling us we a= re
in moral danger and the numbers don't bare it out and they aren't a= cting
like it is that serious.
> The mayor NY and the governor are 100% assholes.
> We have NEVER quarantined in the history of illness HEALTHY PEOPLE!!r> > Sick people yes, and they should be isolated at home.
It is unbelievable.=C2=A0 Never in my lifetime could I have ever imagined t= his.
> If you go to any NY hospital now in the city,=C2=A0 if you show ANY si= gns of SOB you are intubated and you DIE!!!!=C2=A0 They do not resuscitate = anyone suspected of corona!!
> That=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s insane..... If the reason people are dyi= ng are the clots, they NO ONE should be intubated and they should emergentl= y be give blood thinners.
>
> The elderly are being treated like disposable spoilers of this virus.= =C2=A0 They die alone and it=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s criminal.
>
How do you then prevent an anurism..
> I will not fall for the BS of waiting for a vaccine, because patients = being treated right now with the new paradigm are surviving and getting bet= ter quicker.
>
> No patient population compares to the cancer patients who were found t= o be Safe from the extreme sickness of Corona because so many of their pati= ents were on blood thinners.=C2=A0
> The evidence is there.
> Even the Young patients that died, died from Strokes.!!!
> No one is talking about the patients that contracted corona who were d= escribed as =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93healthy=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2=A0 who SMOKE; it= is a joke.=C2=A0 Smokers are NOT healthy, not if they smoke anything,=C2= =A0 pot, vaping or cigarettes.
> I see people on the streets with masks and gloves SMOKING and it=C3=A2= =E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s a joke.
> THey are blowing Corona and adding to the contaminating of all of us.<= br> > I see people wearing masks and gloves throwing them in the streets, no= t using them properly, and I tell them, will all this costuming, they would= never be allowed in the ICU to work because they have no idea how to used = sterile masks and gloves.
>
> If you want to be mad, get mad with the medical system in NY fueled by= political idiots that want to see the economy fail, so they can blame poli= tics.
> Even Fauci, that =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93Statistician=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2= =A0 is out of the loop.=C2=A0 He hasn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t practiced me= dicine in 20 yrs!!=C2=A0 And he is nothing but an accountant for the number= s that other people give him.
>
> THis is BS,=C2=A0 I don=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t give a shit about pol= itics...
> I do care that we are being used for this political experiment.
100%
> The economy should have NEVER been shut down.
A strong economy is our leading weapon to fight the disease.
> It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s laughable that all the markets and stores = that are open are crowded and no one has stopped shopping.
>
> Maybe they should try putting the voter machines in Target or Walmart.= ....
> Then we could vote out these morons that crashed our economy when the = answer to save people was right under our noses.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Ruben Safir <en-at-mrbrklyn.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>> wrote:
>>
>> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
>> We wouldn't want to distribute anything until we are absolutel= y sure it
>> is safe, because WTF!!=C2=A0 11K are already dead in NYC alone and= 23million
>> are on indefinite lockdown!
>>
>> Take your time boys.=C2=A0 Make sure you get it right..
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~
>> Wall Street Journal today:
>>
>> Pfizer could start distributing a possible vaccine on an emergency= basis
>> in the fall if all testing proves successful.
>> Photo: Sipa USA via AP
>> By Jared S. Hopkins
>> April 28, 2020 1:14 pm ET
>>
>> Pfizer Inc. PFE -1.10% said Tuesday it could have a coronavirus va= ccine
>> ready for use on an emergency basis in the fall if it proves to wo= rk
>> safely in testing.
>>
>> Testing of the vaccine, which has already started in Germany, coul= d
>> start in the U.S. as early as next week if health regulators sign = off,
>> Pfizer Chief Executive Albert Bourla said in an interview. Results= from
>> the study could come as early as next month, Mr. Bourla said.
>>
>> Pfizer would need to do more testing to make sure the vaccine work= s
>> safely. If all testing proves successful, Pfizer could start
>> distributing the vaccine on an emergency basis in the fall and rec= eive
>> approval for widespread distribution by year=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84= =A2s end, Mr. Bourla said.
>>
>> =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93This is a crisis right now, and a solution is= desperately needed by
>> all,=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2=A0 Mr. Bourla said.
>> --
>> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
>> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
>> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>> target=3D"_blank">http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>>
>> get=3D"_blank">http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free So= ftware
>> errer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>>
>> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
>> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013=
--
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
"_blank">http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
lank">http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > rget=3D"_blank">http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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