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| DATE | 2020-02-28 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] feeling intimidated for endorsing the GNU
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Frankly, this entire email is a lie. It is very subtle, but it an
example as to why you receive such a strong push back. You are NOT
honest and your motivations are selfish.
> I am very sorry for this. And I apologize because I was one of the> people who suggested people discuss things on this list.
The use of the term "things" here is a lie and newspeak.
What you suggested is that since you have two supporters moderating this
list, that you can bring your overt political campaign to libel Stallman
and take over GNU onto this official GNU list.
Those are the "things" you decided to do. You assumed that people would
just roll over to your attempted coup of GNU and that the moderators of
this list, being in your list of petitioners from the GUIX site, would
be able to control dissent.
It was with this intention that you recommended to bring your revolt to
this list.
> And I was one> of the original moderators of this list till Mike and Brandon decided
This is another lie. There was a two week campaign to kill you off the
moderating chores here because you were abusing that power to
censor the discussion. And even after the change, the hostility to your
plan to take over GNU was turned up, causing the current situation directly.
> they wanted to do moderation on their own without my and Carlos help
> [*].
Because you were censoring the discussion in an effort to facilitate a
COUP of the GNU leadership.
> In hindsight suggesting this list was a terrible recommendation
> and I realize now that I put some people, who just wanted to discuss
> what they love about being GNU, through a lot of pain.
This is a THIRD lie:
It was never your intention to discuss what you "love about being GNU".
What there has been a discussion about has been the creation of a domain
that claims it represents GNU that is unauthorized by the GNU
leadership. There has been an echo chamber discussing an authorized
wiki claiming to represent GNU. It is a discussion about libelous
accusations at RMS and the GNU project as a whole. There has been an
organized effort by a few maintainers to run roughshod of the public's
interest in the GNU project, and do a hostile takeover.
At no time has there been any discussion of what we love about GNU, with
the possible exception to several postings I made that were censored.
> I am very sorry
> for that.
Save me the crocodile tears. Your efforts made RMS homeless for a
period of time.
> I am certainly not recommending people make themselves a
> target by publicly posting to this list anymore.
>
Your hostile effort to take over GNU will be resisted by people of fine
moral character and real concern for the freedoms it strives to protect
no matter where you attempt to destroy GNU.
> I have heard from various people they felt intimidated both by
> reactions on the list, some by fellow GNU participants and from
> outsiders sending them some of the most offensive email they ever
> received.
Since you have a pattern of lying, I chose not to believe that without
proof. The truth is, your are trying to destroy RMS and people are
ticked off. If the list wasn't censored, it would be more apparent as
to what was the case. Fortunately, I've (tried) to maintain an
uncensored copy of this discussion at NYLXS's mail server. Granted
though, I grew up in the deep ghetto of East New York, Brooklyn and not
some lillywhite ivy league town, so my sensibilities aren't yours. When
I was a teen-ager, people were shot dead on the street for an argument
over a nickle bag.
> Some contain direct personal threats, extremely racist or
> sexist language and even antisemitic views (luckily most of the worst
> ones aren't posted to the list, but there have certainly also been
> implicitly/implied threats and racist or sexist views posted on this
> list).
I think this is yet another lie.
Please post them to the list. Your accusing unknown posters of racists
and sexist views being posted. I think you are a liar.
>
> The FSF keeps ignoring our calls for a neutral discussion space. And I
> think it is unacceptable that people are afraid to publicly discuss why
> they participate in GNU because they feel intimidated and fear to get
> personal threats or have to endure racist or sexist language.
People should not have an censored mailing list to throw about
libelous charges at individuals without it being accountable.
There is NO MAILING LIST BY GNU that is not safe for people to post of
all genders, creeds and races. Your repeated accusation otherwise is a
fraud and a lie. The ONLY racist email sent was an obvious anti-Semitic
troll, which nobody would give a damn about. It is just interesting to
me, though, that as usually, only the Jews get targeted.
> IMHO the
> FSF really has a responsibility to the GNU volunteers to be able to
> work and communicate with each other without having to feel harassed
> all the time.
That is another lie. I've reviewed these mailing lists and been a
member of a number of them and NOBODY has been harassed other than a
few maintainers harassing Richard and falsely accusing him of racist
views and actions.
> And I have recently withdrawn most of my funding to them
> because they are not taking this responsibility seriously.
>
It is OK. AN FSF without Stallman, or a Stallman successor on top is of
no value.
> We are working on providing a better discussion space for GNU
> volunteers,
You can do whatever you want, but this is not what you have tried to do
until now and what you are NOT ALLOWED to do is to claim that your
represent the GNU project. What you have tried to do is oust GNU
leadership by falsely accusing them of left-wing social justice thought
crimes and dragging their reputations through the mud.
> but that is taking some time. I hope we can soon though, so
> people who do want to publicly discuss why and how they want to
> participate in GNU can do that in a more safe space.
>
I am sure it will be highly censored and full of libel and false
accusations. Good riddance.
For the record, GNU and the FSF never discriminates in its hiring or
appointments according to race, religion, gender,or sexual identity.
Furthermore, Richard Stallman has been a vocal proponent of Feminism,
and women's rights for his entire life and a vigilant support of civil
rights for all walks of human life.
It is a fact.
You attack on Stallman is contemptible.
--
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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