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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] ruben@mrbrklyn.com: Please remove me from
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Feb 25 06:47:40 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CBD16423D; Tue, 25 Feb 2020 06:47:38 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 42F791641AE; Tue, 25 Feb 2020 06:44:53 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 06:44:53 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20200225114453.GC20401-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from bios-living.com (unknown [96.57.23.85]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CD1164122 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 22:47:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by bios-living.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7ACB18044D7A; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 23:46:29 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: gnu_news-at-bios-living.com Delivered-To: gnu_news-at-bios-living.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by bios-living.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE16A18044D7A for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 23:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:48600 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j6RBf-00068h-3z for gnu_news-at-bios-living.com; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 22:47:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45089) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j6KHV-0001vZ-4b for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 15:24:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j6KHT-0005wf-ES for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 15:24:44 -0500 Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.162]:14116) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j6KHS-0005v3-Kn for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 15:24:43 -0500 Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC091FBF3FB; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 20:24:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1582575879; s=s1; d=tutanota.com; h=From:To:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Resent-Sender:Resent-Cc:Resent-Date:Resent-To:Reply-To:References:Resent-Message-ID:Resent-From:Sender:from; bh=7VIdUPfDhTbaiVJKrokGrzO7dEOQhuFKg+WsjD88eh4=; b=XpVnWPHyraYSJM4tvpAsP71YFmTKApgguua8WwBprPJK/Pkfpy9/LqG4ICjKSFu7 MBYP5kv6/7+J/k9AS1CTNiPJOnTvwALYRTF3zi89zVB6slmyCqeEbHjtf/hokRIyAVH oI2tWKzsLt2SrLo48Lb3xO0pNASz+Gdxpp+Zq+ZeNfn+0alzpJQknbl3BBOie6eBJEN I6ks2AsG/I/R58xBe8QVqQQcAvwqClJHNObC2B+4PdELjjlFqrezoob2m+ik5/B8wGv ySbXyQMGH9WLdl+JTH5hLtJ/7amJ8q+EG1MH7oAsrx1OD+EsnLeJKcweweaDFklYxIv /cwgqkty8w== Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 21:24:39 +0100 (CET) To: Gnu Misc Discuss Cc: Gnu Misc Discuss Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6fb50bc8-ffad-f094-362c-a20b0a63b176-at-forestfield.org> References: <6fb50bc8-ffad-f094-362c-a20b0a63b176-at-forestfield.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 81.3.6.162 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 22:47:08 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list From: orbulon--- via General GNU project and free software discussions Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Please remove me from your hangout-at-nylxs.com or villian-at-mrbrklyn.com mailing lists X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: orbulon-at-tutanota.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0789936746==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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Unfortunately the only real solution here is to block all of his emails and= domains. I tried unsubscribing too but it didn=E2=80=99t seem to do anythi= ng
Feb 23, 2020, 21:28 by jbn-at-forestfield.org:
> Taylan Kammer wrote: > >> I've had the same problem.=C2=A0 No idea what he's trying to achieve... >> > > What I see is indistinguishable from spam but with more annoying intentio= n (I get into this in detail below) amounting to harassment. I'm surprised = that this behavior is tolerated and not identified as a source of unkind co= mmunication. > >> Anyhow, you can make the ML mail you your password and then use it to un= subscribe. >> That will put an end to the annoying [Hangout - NYLXS] mails consisting = of broken >> up threads and a good amount of spam. >> > In my case that did not work. At first I couldn't reach the Mailman serve= r at all to get to the web front end. Now I can get to it but I'm told that= I am not a subscriber because his Mailman instance doesn't see my email ad= dress on its subscriber list for that "Hangout" mailing list. Messages to v= illian-at-mrbrklyn.com are going to me, and correspondingly I've been receivin= g messages with villian-at-mrbrklyn.com's Mailman password. > > Therefore I believe that ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com has set up a forwarding addre= ss of "villian-at-mrbrklyn.com" and made it so that email to that address is r= outed to me. I can only imagine that the benefit to him is that if anyone h= e does this to complains, he can falsely claim that they're not subscribed = when clearly they are receiving the unsolicited messages. In other words, t= his is intentional. > > I tried unsubscribing villian-at-mrbrklyn.com from that mailing list and app= arently he re-subscribed that account back to that mailing list. So this wo= uld seem to be an intentionally annoying. He knows what is doing, knows it = is unwanted, and keeps doing it. >
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Unfortunately the only real solution here is to block all of his email= s and domains. I tried unsubscribing too but it didn=E2=80=99t seem to do a= nything
Feb 23, 2020= , 21:28 by jbn-at-forestfield.org:
e" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left= : 5px;">Taylan Kammer wrote:
I've had the same pr= oblem. No idea what he's trying to achieve...
r> What I see is indistinguishable from spam but with more annoyi= ng intention (I get into this in detail below) amounting to harassment. I'm= surprised that this behavior is tolerated and not identified as a source o= f unkind communication.
Anyhow, you can make the = ML mail you your password and then use it to unsubscribe.
Tha= t will put an end to the annoying [Hangout - NYLXS] mails consisting of bro= ken
up threads and a good amount of spam.
te>In my case that did not work. At first I couldn't reach the Mailman= server at all to get to the web front end. Now I can get to it but I'm tol= d that I am not a subscriber because his Mailman instance doesn't see my em= ail address on its subscriber list for that "Hangout" mailing list. Message= s to villian-at-mrbrklyn.com are going to me, and correspondingly I've been re= ceiving messages with villian-at-mrbrklyn.com's Mailman password.
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Therefore I believe that ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com has set up a f= orwarding address of "villian-at-mrbrklyn.com" and made it so that email to th= at address is routed to me. I can only imagine that the benefit to him is t= hat if anyone he does this to complains, he can falsely claim that they're = not subscribed when clearly they are receiving the unsolicited messages. In= other words, this is intentional.
I tried uns= ubscribing villian-at-mrbrklyn.com from that mailing list and apparently he re= -subscribed that account back to that mailing list. So this would seem to b= e an intentionally annoying. He knows what is doing, knows it is unwanted, = and keeps doing it.
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_______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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Unfortunately the only real solution here is to block all of his emails and= domains. I tried unsubscribing too but it didn=E2=80=99t seem to do anythi= ng
Feb 23, 2020, 21:28 by jbn-at-forestfield.org:
> Taylan Kammer wrote: > >> I've had the same problem.=C2=A0 No idea what he's trying to achieve... >> > > What I see is indistinguishable from spam but with more annoying intentio= n (I get into this in detail below) amounting to harassment. I'm surprised = that this behavior is tolerated and not identified as a source of unkind co= mmunication. > >> Anyhow, you can make the ML mail you your password and then use it to un= subscribe. >> That will put an end to the annoying [Hangout - NYLXS] mails consisting = of broken >> up threads and a good amount of spam. >> > In my case that did not work. At first I couldn't reach the Mailman serve= r at all to get to the web front end. Now I can get to it but I'm told that= I am not a subscriber because his Mailman instance doesn't see my email ad= dress on its subscriber list for that "Hangout" mailing list. Messages to v= illian-at-mrbrklyn.com are going to me, and correspondingly I've been receivin= g messages with villian-at-mrbrklyn.com's Mailman password. > > Therefore I believe that ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com has set up a forwarding addre= ss of "villian-at-mrbrklyn.com" and made it so that email to that address is r= outed to me. I can only imagine that the benefit to him is that if anyone h= e does this to complains, he can falsely claim that they're not subscribed = when clearly they are receiving the unsolicited messages. In other words, t= his is intentional. > > I tried unsubscribing villian-at-mrbrklyn.com from that mailing list and app= arently he re-subscribed that account back to that mailing list. So this wo= uld seem to be an intentionally annoying. He knows what is doing, knows it = is unwanted, and keeps doing it. >
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Unfortunately the only real solution here is to block all of his email= s and domains. I tried unsubscribing too but it didn=E2=80=99t seem to do a= nything
Feb 23, 2020= , 21:28 by jbn-at-forestfield.org:
e" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left= : 5px;">Taylan Kammer wrote:
I've had the same pr= oblem. No idea what he's trying to achieve...
r> What I see is indistinguishable from spam but with more annoyi= ng intention (I get into this in detail below) amounting to harassment. I'm= surprised that this behavior is tolerated and not identified as a source o= f unkind communication.
Anyhow, you can make the = ML mail you your password and then use it to unsubscribe.
Tha= t will put an end to the annoying [Hangout - NYLXS] mails consisting of bro= ken
up threads and a good amount of spam.
te>In my case that did not work. At first I couldn't reach the Mailman= server at all to get to the web front end. Now I can get to it but I'm tol= d that I am not a subscriber because his Mailman instance doesn't see my em= ail address on its subscriber list for that "Hangout" mailing list. Message= s to villian-at-mrbrklyn.com are going to me, and correspondingly I've been re= ceiving messages with villian-at-mrbrklyn.com's Mailman password.
v>
Therefore I believe that ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com has set up a f= orwarding address of "villian-at-mrbrklyn.com" and made it so that email to th= at address is routed to me. I can only imagine that the benefit to him is t= hat if anyone he does this to complains, he can falsely claim that they're = not subscribed when clearly they are receiving the unsolicited messages. In= other words, this is intentional.
I tried uns= ubscribing villian-at-mrbrklyn.com from that mailing list and apparently he re= -subscribed that account back to that mailing list. So this would seem to b= e an intentionally annoying. He knows what is doing, knows it is unwanted, = and keeps doing it.
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_______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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