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| DATE | 2020-02-24 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The General Public Licence (GPL) as the basic
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:34:55AM +0100, Andreas R. wrote:
> Hi Dmitri,
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:12:09PM +0200, Dmitry Gutov wrote:
> > On 23.02.2020 23:34, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > > I do see that some people do not judge the document for what it actually
> > > says, and I think it’s a pity.
> > >
> > > Over the last decade I have, again, not been silent about a desire to
> > > work towards a collectively-run GNU. But I’ve also done a lot for GNU
> > > in that time, and I don’t think it’s useful to view every single action
> > > of mine as “part of that campaign”.
> >
> > I think it's a real pity that the first public push for this initiative
> > (which could be beneficial for GNU in the long run) started with you kicking
> > down Richard who had just been unfairly treated by the public and the press
> > in the preceding scandal.
> >
> > I haven't seen a lot of the subsequent discussions on this mailing list,
>
> It is not without reason motivations are considered ouf of scope
There is a good reason for it, it is because you are lieing. You want
to kill off RMS from GNU and your petition is quite clear that you
consider him an embassment to you and you support the outrageous libel
against him. So no you back peddle in your overt power grab of GNU, and
organized rebellion from the leadership. YOu have been caught in your
lie multiple times, and no claim there is a reason why you won't discuss
you motive...
of course!
Because if we are not to discuss your reason then you get to hide behind
the "kindness and assuption of good will" for VICIOUS action.
If you DO discuss it, then you VICIOUS actions become ... nothing to
assume... they are out in the open and then you are exposed for being
the fucked up and vicious individual that you really are.
First you piled up to RMS and bullied him around until he ended up
homeless and felt it necessary to resign from the FSF for crimes he
never commited. Then you inflamed the situation by misusing the private
channels of the maintainers lists to garner support to steal GNU from
the leadership. Then you continued with you inflamatory inuendo and
false accuations to pound the FSF to reinterpt its rules to do a hostile
take over of GNU. Then you demanded censorship when peope tell you
there you are acting like a pack of wild dogs and we HATE IT. Now, the
commune is rioting in the streets of Paris, the Riechstag is burning to
the ground, the final solution is agreed upon, and you pretend to hide
behind the priciples of civil discussion, because now it suites your
goals.
You are a mean, insincere, hateful bore! And everyone who lines up to
endorse your VICIOUS actions on GNU.TOOLS and the mailing list you
created to conspire against GNU are my personal enemies, and enemies of
Freedom, and the enemies of GNU. I have ZERO remorse that these
communications make you feel uncomportable... it doesn't make you feel
uncomfortable enough because you continue to be a vicious animal in your
words, and actions.
And Mike Geritz is nothing but a second rate censor who's censorship has
through hot oil on a raging fire.
We wil not give up until your vicious inititive is driven into the
ground. You have declared war on the inocent and NOTHING to asume about
your innocencei, or your good faith on this matter. You, as a group, have
admited in open discussion, in peitions made in your private sewing circle.
You are the cause of the destruction of GNU and its principles.
> for the
> discussion. In order to facilitate any constructive dialogue,
> we were asked to assume good faith, which in this case means that whatever
> reasons people have to participate in drafting the document and endorsing
> it are valid, however right or wrong one feels these reasons might be.
>
> Doing otherwise would likely lead to accusations going back and forth with
> emotions escalating, opinions hardening, and nothing productive being achieved
> in the process.
>
> thanks,
> Andreas R.
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