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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why the "social contract" should not be
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From: Mike Gerwitz
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On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 08:50:44 -0800, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrot=
e:
> On 2020-02-22 19:38, Mike Gerwitz wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 20:48:43 +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:26:22AM -0800, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote:
>>>> > And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of us
>>>> > being
>>>> > powermongers?
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.gnu.tools/wiki:code-of-conduct
>>>> "Enforcement", "Ban", "Correction", "Warning" ....
>>>> You are sick.
>>>
>>> Could I kindly ask for this person to be put on moderation? I find it
>>> difficult to interpret the last statement as anything but a gratuitous
>>> insult
>>> (following a message that was not even directed at them). Notice that
>>> there
>>> is a pattern of overly aggressive messages by Kaz Kylheku.
>>
>> I think we can handle this without having to resort to blocking a
>> person's messages.
>>
>> Kaz, please avoid use of subjective terms like "powermonger" and focus
>
> Everything you see here has passed moderation.
>
> If you don't think I should be able to include quotes of someone
> else's text that contains "powermonger", take it up with the moderator.
I'm very sorry---I meant to reply to the "you are sick". I was
considering multiple moderation messages at once and they somehow got
mixed.
I am one of the moderators on this list.
>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html
>
> I think that is useful for communication within projects themselves.
> I don't think that should be blindly followed in a self-defeating way
> by remaining meek when the project is under attack.
The guidelines do not say "be kind unless ...".
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Mike Gerwitz
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On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 08:50:44 -0800, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrot=
e:
> On 2020-02-22 19:38, Mike Gerwitz wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 20:48:43 +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:26:22AM -0800, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote:
>>>> > And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of us
>>>> > being
>>>> > powermongers?
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.gnu.tools/wiki:code-of-conduct
>>>> "Enforcement", "Ban", "Correction", "Warning" ....
>>>> You are sick.
>>>
>>> Could I kindly ask for this person to be put on moderation? I find it
>>> difficult to interpret the last statement as anything but a gratuitous
>>> insult
>>> (following a message that was not even directed at them). Notice that
>>> there
>>> is a pattern of overly aggressive messages by Kaz Kylheku.
>>
>> I think we can handle this without having to resort to blocking a
>> person's messages.
>>
>> Kaz, please avoid use of subjective terms like "powermonger" and focus
>
> Everything you see here has passed moderation.
>
> If you don't think I should be able to include quotes of someone
> else's text that contains "powermonger", take it up with the moderator.
I'm very sorry---I meant to reply to the "you are sick". I was
considering multiple moderation messages at once and they somehow got
mixed.
I am one of the moderators on this list.
>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html
>
> I think that is useful for communication within projects themselves.
> I don't think that should be blindly followed in a self-defeating way
> by remaining meek when the project is under attack.
The guidelines do not say "be kind unless ...".
=2D-=20
Mike Gerwitz
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