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FROM | Mike Gerwitz
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why the "social contract" should not be
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Mon Feb 24 05:57:01 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727E41641A1; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 05:57:01 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2E5E716419A; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 05:56:57 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 05:56:57 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20200224105657.GF553-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from bios-living.com (unknown [96.57.23.85]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9A8163FC2 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:46:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by bios-living.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8879318B10E9C; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:45:58 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: gnu_news-at-bios-living.com Delivered-To: gnu_news-at-bios-living.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by bios-living.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D99018B10E9C for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:45:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:59272 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j64ha-0008Vv-9T for gnu_news-at-bios-living.com; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:46:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58639) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j64hW-0008SQ-0d for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:46:34 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j64hV-0007ER-Sg; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:46:33 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::1]:44813 helo=mikegerwitz-pc.gerwitz.local) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1j64hU-0001tZ-K0; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:46:32 -0500 From: Mike Gerwitz To: "Kaz Kylheku \(gnu-misc-discuss\)" <936-846-2769-at-kylheku.com> In-Reply-To: <41e7e681464b3a913ca3e4110dd9e3b2-at-mail.kylheku.com> (Kaz Kylheku's message of "Sun, 23 Feb 2020 14:35:56 -0800") Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:43:40 -0500 Message-ID: <878sksd503.fsf-at-gnu.org> References: <20200222092207.GC1274-at-jurong> <87o8tq3t85.fsf-at-gnu.org> <41e7e681464b3a913ca3e4110dd9e3b2-at-mail.kylheku.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) OpenPGP: id=D6E9B930028A6C38F43B2388FEF635745E6F6D05 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why the "social contract" should not be endorsed X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1725834723==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 14:35:56 -0800, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrot= e: > On 2020-02-22 18:58, Amin Bandali wrote: >> "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2769-at-kylheku.com> writes: >> >> [...] >>> >>> You are sick. >> >> I urge you to consider the GNU Kind Communications Guidelines [0] when >> posting to GNU lists, as well as keeping this list's guidelines [1] in >> mind when posting here. > > I sincerely believe that the code of conduct document published > on the gnu.tools is the product of a sick mind. > > Make no mistake: this is not name-calling; I stand by it.
To approach this from a constructive perspective: rather than claiming someone to be "sick", state your opinion of the symptoms, and debate those.
But more importantly, and taking precedence: it's irrelevant to the discussion. Whether or not you believe someone to be "sick" because they hold a particular viewpoint---which I find to be a terrible mistake---doesn't matter to the topic at hand. Consequently, raising it could only be interpreted as an insult, since it can do nothing to further a constructive debate.
So as a moderator, I'm asking that you please stop.
=2D-=20 Mike Gerwitz
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On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 14:35:56 -0800, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrot= e: > On 2020-02-22 18:58, Amin Bandali wrote: >> "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2769-at-kylheku.com> writes: >> >> [...] >>> >>> You are sick. >> >> I urge you to consider the GNU Kind Communications Guidelines [0] when >> posting to GNU lists, as well as keeping this list's guidelines [1] in >> mind when posting here. > > I sincerely believe that the code of conduct document published > on the gnu.tools is the product of a sick mind. > > Make no mistake: this is not name-calling; I stand by it.
To approach this from a constructive perspective: rather than claiming someone to be "sick", state your opinion of the symptoms, and debate those.
But more importantly, and taking precedence: it's irrelevant to the discussion. Whether or not you believe someone to be "sick" because they hold a particular viewpoint---which I find to be a terrible mistake---doesn't matter to the topic at hand. Consequently, raising it could only be interpreted as an insult, since it can do nothing to further a constructive debate.
So as a moderator, I'm asking that you please stop.
=2D-=20 Mike Gerwitz
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