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| DATE | 2020-02-21 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] State of the GNUnion 2020
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On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 09:09:47PM +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
> Hello John,
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:54:19PM -0500, John Darrington wrote:
> > Therefore I'm extremely dissapointed that recently a small group of
> > GNU maintainers has started spreading nagative and misleading propaganda
> > about others within GNU
>
> this is not founded in any argument, but seems to be pure propaganda itself.
Oh that is a total crock. Do you think everyone can be just conned.
You deny that you little group accused RMS as pediaphilia, and
supporting statutory rape, and complained about his past behviors
and history. It was written in PLAIN ENGLISH on your joint signed
petition on the GUIX site and then followed up here where you opened
us up to more crazy accusations of sexual malfeicence and discrimination
against women, all of which PROVED to be total lies.
> Can you instantiate this claim? Who has spread which negative propaganda
> about whom?
>
If I dig this up, these accusations, and quote them, from any of your group,
you all agree to resign from the GNU project immediately, and closing down
all opposition to current leadership.
It would be worth it just to kick you of the GNU project.
How about making that deal.
> > demanding conformance to rules - sometimes
> > capricious ones - which have no relevance to GNU, and spreading of
> > extremist and quite orthogonal rhetoric.
>
> Can you give a concrete example?
OK my son's Yeshiva uses free software and hacks it in there education
at an Orthodox Jewish boys school that excludes girls and gays.
Are they welcome to participate or are you just an anti-semetic bigot
dressed up as a social warrior?
That is what your social contract does. It enforced non-GNU values
on everyone else.
>As I see it, the GNU Social Contract
> contains only trivialities in the sense that it summarises values of the
> GNU project that are already there, and as such it is far from extremist.
>
> > None of these actions are going to attract people to GNU. Quite the opposite.
> > They are driving people away. It has to stop - and the sooner the better.
>
> Well, you are of course entitled to that opinion, but I am naturally of the
> opposite one. And we have received feedback going exactly in that direction,
> that our initiative would be a good starting point to make someone come
> back to GNU.
>
GNU doesn't need any help. It is doing fine. It has transformed the
entire worlds veiw of digitial rights ethics... and that is its
mission..
> Andreas
>
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