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| DATE | 2020-02-21 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] State of the GNUnion 2020
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On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:16:15PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Ruben Safir, le jeu. 20 févr. 2020 16:30:40 -0500, a ecrit:
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 06:39:52PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Alfred M. Szmidt, le jeu. 20 f??vr. 2020 12:32:16 -0500, a ecrit:
> > > > > > Our concern is that at some point GNU may be just completely unknown
> > > > > > to free software enthousiasts. As in, when you'd ask people what free
> > > > > > software is about, they would answer "ah, yes, the stuff on github,
> > > > > > right".
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, sure. But going back to Eli's point, the development activity of
> > > > > individual projects is determined by individual project's members, and is
> > > > > rarely affected by the actions of the leadership.
> > > >
> > > > The activity by itself, yes, but the choice of where to start a new
> > > > project, or starting contributing an existing project, leadership does
> > > > have a lot of importance.
> > > >
> > > > How does that have to do with the overall project leadership, which
> > > > hasn't changed significantly over the years, and yet had significant
> > > > growth in new projects for several decades (if we take the graphs by
> > > > Wingo at face value).
> > >
> > > "Significant growth" is very little compared to the huge growth that can
> > > be seen on other platforms.
> >
> > Non-sense. This is a platform to gaurantee the public has a Free System
> > to choose from. It is not to be measured feature by feature by grossly
> > over built systems which spinning insecure parts in every direction.
> >
> > The priority here not to build the best facebook ap. It is to build a
> > system that respects the user, user privacy and freedom.
>
> I'm not saying otherwise.
>
> But I'm saying that what newcomers mostly see nowadays is the github
> trend.
I doubt that, btw, since I spend SO MUCH TIME teaching students how to
fix there github access when they get into class. But aside from that,
who CARES. There is always some BS tread that is trying to lock up the
minds of young people. Remember when Java would rule the world?
Remember when you had to have pivot tables for a spreadsheet?
Remember when .asp was the future?
Who cares about github.
The only thing GNU needs to concern itself with is the Four Freedoms and
to provide a software basis that supports that. Everythign else,
including and especially GUIX is peripherial distractions to the real
task of GNU.
> And thus will not even be aware of its problems and the GNU
> project alternative. If GNU does not make actual efforts to be
> attractive (without leaving out its goal, of course), its message will
> not get received by new generations.
>
> Possibly a useful statistics to have would be the evolution of the
> average age of contributors.
>
> Samuel
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