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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]
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Envelope-to: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60137) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j3PPR-00049g-QA for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:16:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3PPQ-0006Kk-DP for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:16:53 -0500 Received: from mailbackend.panix.com ([166.84.1.89]:61445) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3PPQ-0006Jv-A0; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:16:52 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.62] (www3.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.83]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48LH0z28qYzylX; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:16:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: duplicated messages and NYLXS cross-posting To: John Darrington , Daniel Pocock , hangout-at-nylxs.com, rms-at-gnu.org Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org References: <720cbc0e-0353-10d9-87fc-f589fc981579-at-pocock.pro> <57d43a2d-6e17-0fe7-2205-416ca133767d-at-pocock.pro> <20200216125952.GD7146-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20200216150249.GA12584-at-gnu.org> From: Ruben Safir Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:14:31 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200216150249.GA12584-at-gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux (Android) [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 166.84.1.89
On 2/16/20 10:02 AM, John Darrington wrote: > On the other hand, using this list to vent emotion (even when > severly provoked) is not, in my opinion, an acceptable use. >=20 > Yet another point is that of cross posting. I would kindly > ask that when people reply to this list, that they do NOT > CC hangout-at-nylxs.com and if you post to hangout-at-nylxs.com > then please do not CC gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org >=20 > People are welcome to participate in whichever list they > choose, but replying to both is a waste of resources and > causes confusion and complicates things for everyone.
Wrong
CCing both makes sure that an uncensored communocation happens. The moderators of this list have proven that they can not be trusted. Censorship is a waste of resoruces.
You you don't like the way I write, close your eyes. I will speak the truth on this matter of the "Code of Conduct" and the illegal .tools website over and over again until this injustice ends.
BTW - the only thing hangout does is, with regard to this list, is record and archive emails..not that it matters.
The moderation here has been to suppress the message. It is all about the message and what is precieved as useful to combat the abused by Ludovic Court=C3=A8s and is merry band of mostly French based pirates.
Setting up a shadow GNU government for maintainers is unexceptable and fraud perpetrated by those who are doing that. It has zero moral grounds to stand on and the people do this are being vicious and destructive to GNU for the purpose of feeding there own egos.
These folk lie, perpetrate fraud, manipulate the organization and lobby for the death of GNU and for personal harm to RMS.
That message is being repressed on gnu-misc-discuss list.
See... your allowed to act like a Nazi and create a storm of hatred if you do it nicely, with pretty words. But if the victems rise up in protest, and talk like they come from the street and not some academeic hall, that is not allowed on the list.
That is FUCKED UP and I am sick of it. There is no combination of language that I know of that can say this better than to say it is FUCKED UP. And since you are censoring me, I feel no need then to speak in plain langauge on this issue. And incentive to be more moderate in my expression have been removed by the radical action of the censorship.
Ruben
--=20 So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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Envelope-to: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60137) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j3PPR-00049g-QA for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:16:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3PPQ-0006Kk-DP for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:16:53 -0500 Received: from mailbackend.panix.com ([166.84.1.89]:61445) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j3PPQ-0006Jv-A0; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:16:52 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.62] (www3.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.83]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48LH0z28qYzylX; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:16:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: duplicated messages and NYLXS cross-posting To: John Darrington , Daniel Pocock , hangout-at-nylxs.com, rms-at-gnu.org Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org References: <720cbc0e-0353-10d9-87fc-f589fc981579-at-pocock.pro> <57d43a2d-6e17-0fe7-2205-416ca133767d-at-pocock.pro> <20200216125952.GD7146-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20200216150249.GA12584-at-gnu.org> From: Ruben Safir Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 14:14:31 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200216150249.GA12584-at-gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux (Android) [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 166.84.1.89
On 2/16/20 10:02 AM, John Darrington wrote: > On the other hand, using this list to vent emotion (even when > severly provoked) is not, in my opinion, an acceptable use. >=20 > Yet another point is that of cross posting. I would kindly > ask that when people reply to this list, that they do NOT > CC hangout-at-nylxs.com and if you post to hangout-at-nylxs.com > then please do not CC gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org >=20 > People are welcome to participate in whichever list they > choose, but replying to both is a waste of resources and > causes confusion and complicates things for everyone.
Wrong
CCing both makes sure that an uncensored communocation happens. The moderators of this list have proven that they can not be trusted. Censorship is a waste of resoruces.
You you don't like the way I write, close your eyes. I will speak the truth on this matter of the "Code of Conduct" and the illegal .tools website over and over again until this injustice ends.
BTW - the only thing hangout does is, with regard to this list, is record and archive emails..not that it matters.
The moderation here has been to suppress the message. It is all about the message and what is precieved as useful to combat the abused by Ludovic Court=C3=A8s and is merry band of mostly French based pirates.
Setting up a shadow GNU government for maintainers is unexceptable and fraud perpetrated by those who are doing that. It has zero moral grounds to stand on and the people do this are being vicious and destructive to GNU for the purpose of feeding there own egos.
These folk lie, perpetrate fraud, manipulate the organization and lobby for the death of GNU and for personal harm to RMS.
That message is being repressed on gnu-misc-discuss list.
See... your allowed to act like a Nazi and create a storm of hatred if you do it nicely, with pretty words. But if the victems rise up in protest, and talk like they come from the street and not some academeic hall, that is not allowed on the list.
That is FUCKED UP and I am sick of it. There is no combination of language that I know of that can say this better than to say it is FUCKED UP. And since you are censoring me, I feel no need then to speak in plain langauge on this issue. And incentive to be more moderate in my expression have been removed by the radical action of the censorship.
Ruben
--=20 So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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