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Final answer to the Social Contract Question from Phil Maker
1. Since I've only got two options (:-)) I choose "I do not adhere" which
should be read as after
a bit of investigation and time wasting that this is a very bad idea.
Every rock you lift up has
something under it (who, why, how, ....). I'm with RMS on this.
2. Feel free to publish my name as a dissident. This is to suggest I
disagree is fine, but to suggest
I not adhere to some of your standards would be unfortunate. Using the
word dissident is fine.
Have a good one.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 9:14 AM Brian.Tiffin
wrote:
>
> Phil Maker wrote:
> > Ludovic, ...,
> >
> > Re the Social Contract I'm sure greater minds than mine have looked at
> > it but I feel obliged to make some sort of response of which the next
> > paragraph is the only
> > important one.
> >
> > Given the two options "I endorse" or "I do not adhere to" may I be bold
> as
> > to choose
> > the third option, i.e. no thanks, not interested, neither answer is
> > acceptable to me.
> > Please be so kind as to record that somewhere and if you make any public
> > lists of
> > responses it would be nice to put that in.
> >
> >
> Totally agree with Phil on this one. I voted no on even holding these
> discussions in a public area, months ago now. Still don't want to take
> part.
>
> So, you'll find my imaginary non endorsement tucked inside my letter to
> Santa.
>
> If that sounds like an unkind swipe, it is. I have no inclination to
> think that any, ANY, of these current modes of communication are well
> intended; responses will not be veiled as well intended or kind. Akin
> to when you may have to slap someone in the face when they are risking
> themselves and others in a state of panic. Sowing discontent with a
> polite smile is not good, it smacks of evil and willful ignorance.
>
> I'll add that I'd like to be removed from any further imaginary fair-use
> of the email address that was scraped from fencepost, Ludovic. Make
> that removal real, please. You were not given my permission for use of
> that information for that purpose. And now you are given an explicit
> demand to cease and desist. The fact that that information might happen
> to match what I may have exposed on gnu-misc-discuss and other lists is
> irrelevant. Cease and desist usage for those imaginary purposes.
> Personally speaking, there is no i in my concept of team GNU. There is
> "me", Richard Stallman and those he deems worthy of the Gnuisance moniker.
>
> This us versus them wedge is imaginary; the fallout and after effects
> are and will be real, and in my opinion, damagingly so.
>
> Have good, make real
>
>
>
--
Phil Maker
email:
phoneemail: -- email to phone (fastest)
phone: +61 (0)447 630 229
"Think on this doctrine, that reasoning beings were created for one
another's sake; that to be patient is a branch of justice, and that men sin
without intending it" -- Marcus Aurelius
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Final answer to the Social Contract Question from Phi=
l Maker
1. Since I've only got two options= (:-)) I choose "I do not adhere" which should be read as afterdiv> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 a bit of investigation and time wasting that th=
is is a very bad idea. Every rock you lift up has
=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 something under it (who, why, how, ....). I'm with RMS on thi=
s.
2. Feel free to publish my name as=C2=A0 a diss=
ident. This is to suggest I disagree is fine, but to suggest =C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I not adhere to some of your standards would be unfortunate=
. Using the word dissident is fine.
Have a good on=
e.
ss=3D"gmail_quote"> mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Phil Maker wrote:
> Ludovic, ...,
>
> Re the Social Contract I'm sure greater minds than mine have looke=
d at
> it but I feel obliged to make some sort of response of which the next<=
br>
> paragraph is the only
> important one.
>
> Given the two options "I endorse" or "I do not adhere t=
o" may I be bold as
> to choose
> the third option, i.e. no thanks, not interested, neither answer is>
> acceptable to me.
> Please be so kind as to record that somewhere and if you make any publ=
ic
> lists of
> responses it would be nice to put that in.
>
>
Totally agree with Phil on this one.=C2=A0 I voted no on even holding these=
discussions in a public area, months ago now.=C2=A0 Still don't want to=
take
part.
So, you'll find my imaginary non endorsement tucked inside my letter to=
Santa.
If that sounds like an unkind swipe, it is.=C2=A0 I have no inclination to<=
br>
think that any, ANY, of these current modes of communication are well
intended; responses will not be veiled as well intended or kind.=C2=A0 Akin=
to when you may have to slap someone in the face when they are risking
themselves and others in a state of panic.=C2=A0 Sowing discontent with ar>
polite smile is not good, it smacks of evil and willful ignorance.
I'll add that I'd like to be removed from any further imaginary fai=
r-use
of the email address that was scraped from fencepost, Ludovic.=C2=A0 Maker>
that removal real, please.=C2=A0 You were not given my permission for use o=
f
that information for that purpose.=C2=A0 And now you are given an explicit<=
br>
demand to cease and desist.=C2=A0 The fact that that information might happ=
en
to match what I may have exposed on gnu-misc-discuss and other lists is
irrelevant.=C2=A0 Cease and desist usage for those imaginary purposes.=C2=
=A0
Personally speaking, there is no i in my concept of team GNU.=C2=A0 There i=
s
"me", Richard Stallman and those he deems worthy of the Gnuisance=
moniker.
This us versus them wedge is imaginary; the fallout and after effects
are and will be real, and in my opinion, damagingly so.
Have good, make real
-- mail_signature"> "> iv dir=3D"ltr">"ltr"> v>r=3D"ltr"> > v>Phil Maker
= phoneemail: < _blank">philmakerphone-at-gmail.com> -- email to phone (fastest) iv> phone: +61 (0)447 630 229
"Think on t=
his doctrine, that reasoning beings were created for one=20
another's sake; that to be patient is a branch of justice, and that men=
=20
sin without intending it" -- Marcus Aurelius
iv> = iv> --00000000000010c0a4059ea75ab6-- --===============0646340452== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout --===============0646340452==-- --===============0646340452== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000010c0a4059ea75ab6" --00000000000010c0a4059ea75ab6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Final answer to the Social Contract Question from Phil Maker 1. Since I've only got two options (:-)) I choose "I do not adhere" which should be read as after a bit of investigation and time wasting that this is a very bad idea. Every rock you lift up has something under it (who, why, how, ....). I'm with RMS on this. 2. Feel free to publish my name as a dissident. This is to suggest I disagree is fine, but to suggest I not adhere to some of your standards would be unfortunate. Using the word dissident is fine. Have a good one. On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 9:14 AM Brian.Tiffin
wrote:
>
> Phil Maker wrote:
> > Ludovic, ...,
> >
> > Re the Social Contract I'm sure greater minds than mine have looked at
> > it but I feel obliged to make some sort of response of which the next
> > paragraph is the only
> > important one.
> >
> > Given the two options "I endorse" or "I do not adhere to" may I be bold
> as
> > to choose
> > the third option, i.e. no thanks, not interested, neither answer is
> > acceptable to me.
> > Please be so kind as to record that somewhere and if you make any public
> > lists of
> > responses it would be nice to put that in.
> >
> >
> Totally agree with Phil on this one. I voted no on even holding these
> discussions in a public area, months ago now. Still don't want to take
> part.
>
> So, you'll find my imaginary non endorsement tucked inside my letter to
> Santa.
>
> If that sounds like an unkind swipe, it is. I have no inclination to
> think that any, ANY, of these current modes of communication are well
> intended; responses will not be veiled as well intended or kind. Akin
> to when you may have to slap someone in the face when they are risking
> themselves and others in a state of panic. Sowing discontent with a
> polite smile is not good, it smacks of evil and willful ignorance.
>
> I'll add that I'd like to be removed from any further imaginary fair-use
> of the email address that was scraped from fencepost, Ludovic. Make
> that removal real, please. You were not given my permission for use of
> that information for that purpose. And now you are given an explicit
> demand to cease and desist. The fact that that information might happen
> to match what I may have exposed on gnu-misc-discuss and other lists is
> irrelevant. Cease and desist usage for those imaginary purposes.
> Personally speaking, there is no i in my concept of team GNU. There is
> "me", Richard Stallman and those he deems worthy of the Gnuisance moniker.
>
> This us versus them wedge is imaginary; the fallout and after effects
> are and will be real, and in my opinion, damagingly so.
>
> Have good, make real
>
>
>
--
Phil Maker
email:
phoneemail: -- email to phone (fastest)
phone: +61 (0)447 630 229
"Think on this doctrine, that reasoning beings were created for one
another's sake; that to be patient is a branch of justice, and that men sin
without intending it" -- Marcus Aurelius
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Final answer to the Social Contract Question from Phi=
l Maker
1. Since I've only got two options= (:-)) I choose "I do not adhere" which should be read as afterdiv> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 a bit of investigation and time wasting that th=
is is a very bad idea. Every rock you lift up has
=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 something under it (who, why, how, ....). I'm with RMS on thi=
s.
2. Feel free to publish my name as=C2=A0 a diss=
ident. This is to suggest I disagree is fine, but to suggest =C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I not adhere to some of your standards would be unfortunate=
. Using the word dissident is fine.
Have a good on=
e.
ss=3D"gmail_quote"> mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Phil Maker wrote:
> Ludovic, ...,
>
> Re the Social Contract I'm sure greater minds than mine have looke=
d at
> it but I feel obliged to make some sort of response of which the next<=
br>
> paragraph is the only
> important one.
>
> Given the two options "I endorse" or "I do not adhere t=
o" may I be bold as
> to choose
> the third option, i.e. no thanks, not interested, neither answer is>
> acceptable to me.
> Please be so kind as to record that somewhere and if you make any publ=
ic
> lists of
> responses it would be nice to put that in.
>
>
Totally agree with Phil on this one.=C2=A0 I voted no on even holding these=
discussions in a public area, months ago now.=C2=A0 Still don't want to=
take
part.
So, you'll find my imaginary non endorsement tucked inside my letter to=
Santa.
If that sounds like an unkind swipe, it is.=C2=A0 I have no inclination to<=
br>
think that any, ANY, of these current modes of communication are well
intended; responses will not be veiled as well intended or kind.=C2=A0 Akin=
to when you may have to slap someone in the face when they are risking
themselves and others in a state of panic.=C2=A0 Sowing discontent with ar>
polite smile is not good, it smacks of evil and willful ignorance.
I'll add that I'd like to be removed from any further imaginary fai=
r-use
of the email address that was scraped from fencepost, Ludovic.=C2=A0 Maker>
that removal real, please.=C2=A0 You were not given my permission for use o=
f
that information for that purpose.=C2=A0 And now you are given an explicit<=
br>
demand to cease and desist.=C2=A0 The fact that that information might happ=
en
to match what I may have exposed on gnu-misc-discuss and other lists is
irrelevant.=C2=A0 Cease and desist usage for those imaginary purposes.=C2=
=A0
Personally speaking, there is no i in my concept of team GNU.=C2=A0 There i=
s
"me", Richard Stallman and those he deems worthy of the Gnuisance=
moniker.
This us versus them wedge is imaginary; the fallout and after effects
are and will be real, and in my opinion, damagingly so.
Have good, make real
-- mail_signature"> "> iv dir=3D"ltr">"ltr"> v>r=3D"ltr"> > v>Phil Maker
= phoneemail: < _blank">philmakerphone-at-gmail.com> -- email to phone (fastest) iv> phone: +61 (0)447 630 229
"Think on t=
his doctrine, that reasoning beings were created for one=20
another's sake; that to be patient is a branch of justice, and that men=
=20
sin without intending it" -- Marcus Aurelius
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