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DATE | 2020-02-15 |
FROM | Alexander Vdolainen
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] State of the GNUnion 2020
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sat Feb 15 20:49:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3306016401C; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:49:29 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: from sahkoposti.vapaa.xyz (sahkoposti.vapaa.xyz [185.3.95.14]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB62416401A for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:49:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by sahkoposti.vapaa.xyz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3AD557950A; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 01:49:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=vapaa.xyz; s=201908; t=1581817793; bh=I/Cw3jPR0GEth20C0LuRJctwl5QjpBERSAsKAmYww8g=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=quttYHfacOF2yj9HLHu1iouLh3rqTcM72gzNaMiT2UPIC9eMKdx/Ma20u8IgSkSSn oVd2uANR11hp4lzwp0/cOdPoDRp9WJqy1ibrYC8P4oVeM17oImAHvFH8vkYfd2ikvp vBGcULnhfQHwo/85lcn9H7i5yM9+B1rmeM+JxmLX88I5/qIRhyZLrOEuLLwZhlP7W9 7/LomtiiJZ626rw+UrREzk7+5VPaFfs7XN/OhsNfUp+LSUJj5rBQkoj6zMG+exaKPD NYBNGcI1hfvrbhMKDGdWiAHqQLUMFQ1h9MRjjMUpCEkrFEMWzJKcninjBjjpMyFi9j HHVGZSiFgMU4g== X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on sahkoposti.vapaa.xyz X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from silverstonevi.localnet (amoebax.askele.com [172.105.95.96]) by sahkoposti.vapaa.xyz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3CD7079506; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 01:49:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=vapaa.xyz; s=201908; t=1581817792; bh=I/Cw3jPR0GEth20C0LuRJctwl5QjpBERSAsKAmYww8g=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=HnUuG3X4dT1H/9XwGRW23ok0niEKKe3wmYJmfqtFk9lfmZGRRPJAltEcTOhEgb7+u Zr4PqLBVmOPfaO9tsSAD3SkBvospKBZSRWqD3Xc7Uoyvz25GTepMn3q8KbGqj+iT+V 9Lya3ikdVvY+Xb22iUcWcatSQvHRf45HhaErVu+NBYrNiCS+ztJvtWPiMYLgcLT1Wk ctmktBpoiAwoK0x2mCrIWHuhaoqXb7UvGiAv87cy5UoxgfqaxciRvt2CsNAJ+GvRql fIreqixMkB6vH8sar/3k7onuW3c1MxTG9fQayQr4Am7A4fpxMgztB47Ox2Hji3lN5O WWEaU90pYVzkA== From: Alexander Vdolainen To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 03:49:26 +0200 Message-ID: <7073983.EvYhyI6sBW-at-silverstonevi> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "Alfred M. Szmidt" , gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] State of the GNUnion 2020 X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1758912111==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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On Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:00:51 EET DJ Delorie wrote: > ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) writes: > > You make the incorrect assumption that the health of the GNU project > > should be measured in how many new projects are adopted or released -- > > instead of what our goal is to provide a free operating system. > > Are we DONE producing that operating system? yep, we're *done*. > No? If not, why not? > Aren't all those developers who finished their packages working on > other, new packages? well, but why they have to? > Why aren't the package counts continuing to > increase, if the developers are otherwise unoccupied? see the question above. > > I think, package activity *is* a valid metric if the goal is "all > packages in the OS are free." no it is *not*. > > If a set of developers finish a package, and don't start on a new one, I > think that says something interesting about the health of GNU and its > community. nope. it says about a lot of things, but it's not about health. creating some stupid "gnu social contract" isn't a healthy thing. > > _______________________________________________ > Hangout mailing list > Hangout-at-nylxs.com > http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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On Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:00:51 EET DJ Delorie wrote: > ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) writes: > > You make the incorrect assumption that the health of the GNU project > > should be measured in how many new projects are adopted or released -- > > instead of what our goal is to provide a free operating system. > > Are we DONE producing that operating system? yep, we're *done*. > No? If not, why not? > Aren't all those developers who finished their packages working on > other, new packages? well, but why they have to? > Why aren't the package counts continuing to > increase, if the developers are otherwise unoccupied? see the question above. > > I think, package activity *is* a valid metric if the goal is "all > packages in the OS are free." no it is *not*. > > If a set of developers finish a package, and don't start on a new one, I > think that says something interesting about the health of GNU and its > community. nope. it says about a lot of things, but it's not about health. creating some stupid "gnu social contract" isn't a healthy thing. > > _______________________________________________ > Hangout mailing list > Hangout-at-nylxs.com > http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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