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FROM | ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt)
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SUBJECT | Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [rms@gnu.org: What's GNU -- and what's not]
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GNU package maintainers have committed to do work to maintain and add to the GNU system, but not anything beyond that. We have never pressed contributors to endorse the GNU Project philosophy, or any other philosophical views, because people are welcome to contribute to GNU regardless of their views.
To change that -- to impose such requirements -- would be radical, gratuitous, and divisive, so the GNU Project is not entertaining the idea. Likewise, we will not ask package maintainers to be "members" instead of volunteers. If you contribute to GNU, you are already a member of the GNU community.
The wiki that they set up "for GNU maintainers" represents them, not the GNU Project. People are always free to publish what they think the GNU Project should do, but should not presume it will be accepted or followed by the GNU Project.
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