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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Thu Feb 13 12:49:16 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D26F164193; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:49:16 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8111A163FC4; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:28:25 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:28:25 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20200213172825.GP30220-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1j1c9e-0003l1-0B for mharc-gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 15:29:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45900) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j0uTR-0001ir-Ej for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2020 16:50:43 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35066) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j0uTQ-0000TY-SR; Sun, 09 Feb 2020 16:50:40 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=40820 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1j0uTQ-0001pt-3D; Sun, 09 Feb 2020 16:50:40 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: fsf-and-gnu-at-fsf.org References: <20191227093926.GB62099-at-librem> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 21 =?utf-8?Q?Pluvi=C3=B4se?= an 228 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:50:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20191227093926.GB62099-at-librem> (Mark Wielaard's message of "Fri, 27 Dec 2019 10:39:26 +0100") Message-ID: <87v9ofv39z.fsf-at-gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 15:29:08 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2020 21:50:43 -0000 Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Proposals for the new GNU/FSF relationship X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1711745685==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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Dear FSF,
In response to your call for input regarding the future of the FSF/GNU relationship, Mark Wielaard posted proposals back in December on behalf of several GNU maintainers:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-misc-discuss/2019-12/msg00026.html
To date, we have not received any feedback.
The first of these proposals was:
> * leadership > > We believe GNU leadership includes the GNU maintainers who should have > this discussion together with the FSF. That way, the FSF can support > the GNU Project as a whole. > > More generally, we think it is time for the GNU Project to collectively > define its governance structure, in a way that includes all > stakeholders, and that the FSF should facilitate this process.
The announcement posted on February 6th on gnu.org=C2=B9 reads:
Alex Oliva, Henry Poole and John Sullivan (board members or officers of the FSF), and Richard Stallman (head of the GNU Project), have been meeting to develop a general framework which will serve as the foundation for further discussion about specific areas of cooperation.
This does not include GNU maintainers who, as stewards for their GNU packages (and for some of them also as signatories of an agreement with the FSF for the Working Together Fund), are part of the GNU leadership and should be equal partners.
Could you make sure GNU maintainers can take part in these discussions?
Thanks in advance, Ludo=E2=80=99.
=C2=B9 https://www.gnu.org/gnu/2020-announcement-1.html
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Dear FSF,
In response to your call for input regarding the future of the FSF/GNU relationship, Mark Wielaard posted proposals back in December on behalf of several GNU maintainers:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-misc-discuss/2019-12/msg00026.html
To date, we have not received any feedback.
The first of these proposals was:
> * leadership > > We believe GNU leadership includes the GNU maintainers who should have > this discussion together with the FSF. That way, the FSF can support > the GNU Project as a whole. > > More generally, we think it is time for the GNU Project to collectively > define its governance structure, in a way that includes all > stakeholders, and that the FSF should facilitate this process.
The announcement posted on February 6th on gnu.org=C2=B9 reads:
Alex Oliva, Henry Poole and John Sullivan (board members or officers of the FSF), and Richard Stallman (head of the GNU Project), have been meeting to develop a general framework which will serve as the foundation for further discussion about specific areas of cooperation.
This does not include GNU maintainers who, as stewards for their GNU packages (and for some of them also as signatories of an agreement with the FSF for the Working Together Fund), are part of the GNU leadership and should be equal partners.
Could you make sure GNU maintainers can take part in these discussions?
Thanks in advance, Ludo=E2=80=99.
=C2=B9 https://www.gnu.org/gnu/2020-announcement-1.html
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