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DATE | 2020-02-10 |
FROM | Werner Koch
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What's GNU -- and what's not
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Thu Feb 13 12:45:17 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAB5164158; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:45:16 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BB888163FB8; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:28:22 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:28:22 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20200213172822.GK30220-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1j1CcZ-0002yR-Pn for mharc-gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 12:13:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41002) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j14vS-000642-NY for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 04:00:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j14vN-0005kZ-Pp for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 04:00:18 -0500 Received: from kerckhoffs.g10code.com ([2001:aa8:fff1:100::22]:49513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j14vN-0005gi-8P for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 04:00:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnupg.org; s=20181017; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tOzFdNDE0jqclNNt1nuHztD57GlXCFG58NSxoT04hys=; b=Er6UclnOIBY2LfYicrX866GLta xCSscaihYp2BY5IK1AcStAw3Zog9Zf42VF3DfGCUnZWxjxyYxxPA8JDxw0vjTj19Osygn5Antqwpz 4DAO3Qfz1gKT5R9SYp/4SRDbQLyNdrKPfcDLjQh7EOi4SzjVwaNz5afKx+FeC7ovBsEE=; Received: from uucp by kerckhoffs.g10code.com with local-rmail (Exim 4.89 #1 (Debian)) id 1j14vJ-0006Qn-B2 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 10:00:09 +0100 Received: from wk by wheatstone.g10code.de with local (Exim 4.92 #5 (Debian)) id 1j14qx-0005uV-Sy; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 09:55:39 +0100 From: Werner Koch To: Carlo Wood References: <20200207195149.GS42691-at-wildebeest.org> <20200208172435.0c126976-at-hikaru> Organisation: GnuPG e.V. X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. Mail-Followup-To: Carlo Wood , Mark Wielaard , gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org, Richard Stallman Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 09:55:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20200208172435.0c126976-at-hikaru> (Carlo Wood's message of "Sat, 8 Feb 2020 17:24:35 +0100") Message-ID: <87a75qlt2y.fsf-at-wheatstone.g10code.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2001:aa8:fff1:100::22 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 12:13:18 -0500 X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 09:00:19 -0000 Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org, Richard Stallman Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What's GNU -- and what's not X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1852468353==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 17:24, Carlo Wood said:
> So, I think all of this can be summarized as a small group of > two maybe three people who started a new website and are trying
There are more than three people who disagree with the way the GNU project is currently managed.
Except for signing the initial article I have not chimed in because the way how we are discussing non-technical issues here is the very reason that things need a change. I have never been a fan of written down rules because I hoped that we are all sensible adults who behave in a friendly way. Discussions in the last weeks, and also a couple of years ago, showed that I am too naive with this believe and so a Social Contract is in severe need to allow that the GNU project won't disappear from the technical and human right sphere.
Shalom-Salam,
Werner
=2D-=20 Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz.
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On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 17:24, Carlo Wood said:
> So, I think all of this can be summarized as a small group of > two maybe three people who started a new website and are trying
There are more than three people who disagree with the way the GNU project is currently managed.
Except for signing the initial article I have not chimed in because the way how we are discussing non-technical issues here is the very reason that things need a change. I have never been a fan of written down rules because I hoped that we are all sensible adults who behave in a friendly way. Discussions in the last weeks, and also a couple of years ago, showed that I am too naive with this believe and so a Social Contract is in severe need to allow that the GNU project won't disappear from the technical and human right sphere.
Shalom-Salam,
Werner
=2D-=20 Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz.
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