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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Feb 11 17:34:53 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D66516114A; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 17:34:52 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AF437161134; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 17:34:45 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 17:34:45 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20200211223445.GB9359-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E4F161134 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:57524 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j1d8c-0004z4-TE for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:32:10 -0500 From: gnu-misc-discuss-owner-at-gnu.org To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2869639631414482070==" Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:32:09 -0500 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 X-List-Administrivia: yes Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Feedback_on_the_GNU_Social_contract_a?= =?utf-8?q?nd_new_wiki=2Egnu=2Etools=2E?= X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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Envelope-to: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j1d8Y-0004yu-Q8 for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:32:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j1d8X-0007kE-As for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:32:06 -0500 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com ([96.57.23.82]:47602 helo=mrbrklyn.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j1d8T-0007c7-GL; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:32:01 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.62] (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.83]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A1A161132; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:32:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Feedback on the GNU Social contract and new wiki.gnu.tools. To: hangout-at-nylxs.com References: <20200128181108.5lkxg6aj2j7bhb7s-at-softwarelibre.nl> <87o8uncogw.fsf-at-gnu.org> <87h80ea6b0.fsf-at-gnu.org> From: Ruben Safir Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:29:40 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87h80ea6b0.fsf-at-gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 96.57.23.82
On 1/29/20 5:46 AM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Hi Alfred, >=20 > ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) skribis: >=20 >> You are misusing the trust given by the GNU project by harvesting >> member information and using it for non-GNU purposes. Nobody gave you >> the right to use that information, in any shape or form. >=20 > We didn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t harvest anything. =20
That is patently false
> I think it=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s reasonable for GNU maintainers > get in touch one another, and that=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s unfortunate= ly the only to do that > reliably AFAIK. >
Not by harvesting all the email addresses and creating a wiki over the objections of the GNU managment.
Really, you are full of shit
>> The social contract you suggest has also been rejected, simply because >> we do not nor will we require members to accept such a document when >> they become GNU maintainers or volunteers. >=20 > The email we sent invites all GNU maintainers to weigh in to get to a > version of the social contract that we could all identify with. >=20 > It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s about building a shared understanding of wh= at it is we=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2re aiming > for as a project. =20
Your not interested in that. Your interested in building a ground swell to install yourself as head of GNU
That is not responsibility. Worry about your own project.
> To me, that can only be beneficial to the project and > its cohesion. >=20 > Thanks, > Ludo=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Hangout mailing list > Hangout-at-nylxs.com > http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout >=20
--=20 So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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_______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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Envelope-to: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j1d8Y-0004yu-Q8 for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:32:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j1d8X-0007kE-As for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:32:06 -0500 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com ([96.57.23.82]:47602 helo=mrbrklyn.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j1d8T-0007c7-GL; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:32:01 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.62] (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.83]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A1A161132; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:32:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Feedback on the GNU Social contract and new wiki.gnu.tools. To: hangout-at-nylxs.com References: <20200128181108.5lkxg6aj2j7bhb7s-at-softwarelibre.nl> <87o8uncogw.fsf-at-gnu.org> <87h80ea6b0.fsf-at-gnu.org> From: Ruben Safir Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:29:40 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87h80ea6b0.fsf-at-gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 96.57.23.82
On 1/29/20 5:46 AM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Hi Alfred, >=20 > ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) skribis: >=20 >> You are misusing the trust given by the GNU project by harvesting >> member information and using it for non-GNU purposes. Nobody gave you >> the right to use that information, in any shape or form. >=20 > We didn=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t harvest anything. =20
That is patently false
> I think it=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s reasonable for GNU maintainers > get in touch one another, and that=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s unfortunate= ly the only to do that > reliably AFAIK. >
Not by harvesting all the email addresses and creating a wiki over the objections of the GNU managment.
Really, you are full of shit
>> The social contract you suggest has also been rejected, simply because >> we do not nor will we require members to accept such a document when >> they become GNU maintainers or volunteers. >=20 > The email we sent invites all GNU maintainers to weigh in to get to a > version of the social contract that we could all identify with. >=20 > It=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s about building a shared understanding of wh= at it is we=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2re aiming > for as a project. =20
Your not interested in that. Your interested in building a ground swell to install yourself as head of GNU
That is not responsibility. Worry about your own project.
> To me, that can only be beneficial to the project and > its cohesion. >=20 > Thanks, > Ludo=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Hangout mailing list > Hangout-at-nylxs.com > http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout >=20
--=20 So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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_______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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