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DATE | 2020-02-08 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What's GNU -- and what's not
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On 2/7/20 2:51 PM, Mark Wielaard wrote: > As you know since the FSF asked for feedback on the relationship > between the FSF and GNU
As you know is the biggest indicator of lies and deceit to follow than any other phrase in English or any other language. It is followed by, "As we can all agree", and "From this it is obvious" and other such prepositions to lies.
This is not the location for the GNU/FSF review and comments. Those addresses and the individuals that review such comments are listed elsewhere, most recently :
<< The Free Software Foundation and the GNU Project leadership are defining how these two separate groups cooperate. Our mutual aim is to work together as peers, while minimizing change in the practical aspects of this cooperation, so we can advance in our common free software mission.
Alex Oliva, Henry Poole and John Sullivan ([board members or officers of the FSF][1]), and Richard Stallman (head of the GNU Project), have been meeting to develop a general framework which will serve as the foundation for further discussion about specific areas of cooperation. Together we have been considering the input received from the public on [fsf-and-gnu-at-fsf.org][2] and [gnu-and-fsf-at-gnu.org][3]. We urge people to send any further input by February 13, because we expect to finish this framework soon.
This joint announcement can also be read on http://www.fsf.org/news/gnu-fsf-cooperation-update. >>
This wiki was an overt attempt to remove Stallman from GNU. The creators of the wiki said so when they petitioned to remove RMS from GNU on the GUIX website.
I've argued with Richard that there needs to be a banning of those that challenge to governance of GNU... OUTRIGHT. He, in is infinite patience, has opted to allow this to continue to simmer and give the appearance of negations. In truth though, while RMS is extremely tolerant of discourse and political maneuvering, and even lies and libel, I can't see how he is going to be able to settle this one. The individuals who are attacking him here are attacking the very core of GNU. GNU is a militant organization designed to create the tools for free communication and digital culture through software sharing through guarantees of code resources. Without the militant center, it has no chance to survive as a means of cultural change. He is going to have to ban you guys.
As for the talk nice, I view that as I view this along with the sign that was greeted by my ancestors "Arbeit macht frei". The Nazi's talked nice to my relatives in Prague that they brought their own train tickets to the cematoria. I don't give a shit if you talk nice, when you perpetrate a fundamental injustice.
Go fuck yourself. You are not stealing GNU.
Ruben
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