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DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt)
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SUBJECT | Re: A GNU “social contract”?
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 5 21:32:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD40163F76; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:32:39 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E6AB9163F61; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:31:12 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:31:12 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191106023112.GO20969-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B05163F87 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:46:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:46928 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS2ul-0000GX-9h for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 12:46:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46191) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS2ui-0000G7-Cj for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 12:46:45 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55272) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS2uh-0002z1-B3; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 12:46:43 -0500 Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iS2ug-0006a9-SW; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 12:46:43 -0500 From: ams-at-gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) To: Ludovic Courtès In-reply-to: <875zjy36nc.fsf-at-gnu.org> (message from Ludovic Courtès on Tue, 05 Nov 2019 12:27:19 +0100) Subject: Re: A GNU “social contract”? References: <20191024200005.4gcgvj5lrn2dzumg-at-function> <20191024205045.bcyrofzmzoo2kvgf-at-function> <6bf7acc244a2d4667eb0c10a40c5667d4734891b.camel-at-klomp.org> <87zhhpq684.fsf_-_-at-gnu.org> <87ftjdj31j.fsf-at-gnu.org> <20191028202826.GA9517-at-jurong> <87y2wzdfiq.fsf-at-gnu.org> <20191101171929.GA9534-at-jurong> <875zjy36nc.fsf-at-gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 12:46:42 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-UID: 63571 Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1735781515==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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We could define “member” as someone who signed the social contract, but that’s probably not enough: a group of people could make a hostile takeover by signing it en masse. So there needs to be some form of cooptation to avoid that, as is commonly done in organizations.
A GNU project member, be them contributors, or maintainers, have never been required to sign anything to consider themselves members of the GNU project. Asking them to do so now would be unfriendly and counter productive. The sentence that GNU members have agreed to anything should be dropped completely, because that is not true.
In the GNU project everyone is welcome, even people who do not share the goals and philosophy of the GNU project.
I guess that leads to a new sub-task: defining the procedure to become a “member” of the project.
You send a patch, you contribute documentation, you work on Savannah, you don't sign or agree to anything to become a member of the GNU project.
Please stop creating barriers, and hinders for people to contribute to GNU.
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We could define “member” as someone who signed the social contract, but that’s probably not enough: a group of people could make a hostile takeover by signing it en masse. So there needs to be some form of cooptation to avoid that, as is commonly done in organizations.
A GNU project member, be them contributors, or maintainers, have never been required to sign anything to consider themselves members of the GNU project. Asking them to do so now would be unfriendly and counter productive. The sentence that GNU members have agreed to anything should be dropped completely, because that is not true.
In the GNU project everyone is welcome, even people who do not share the goals and philosophy of the GNU project.
I guess that leads to a new sub-task: defining the procedure to become a “member” of the project.
You send a patch, you contribute documentation, you work on Savannah, you don't sign or agree to anything to become a member of the GNU project.
Please stop creating barriers, and hinders for people to contribute to GNU.
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