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DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com>
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The list discourse
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Nov 5 21:31:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA089163F66; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:31:36 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E69E8161134; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:28:19 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:28:19 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20191106022819.GB20969-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FAE161132 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 14:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:49312 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS4eX-0002Yj-A9 for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 14:38:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47731) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <321942-at-gmail.com>) id 1iS4eQ-0002YX-Au for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 14:38:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <321942-at-gmail.com>) id 1iS4eP-0004Zf-61 for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 14:38:02 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-x433.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::433]:45906) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <321942-at-gmail.com>) id 1iS4eO-0004ZW-St for gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 14:38:01 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-x433.google.com with SMTP id q13so22895979wrs.12 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:38:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:accept :accept-language:mail-copies-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=yIxs4B/TdlbxOJJmZvcnOG2E1err1xODMW18hwWPjH0=; b=rMCTTfGtHHMHmv0EjmvlYAWoBmEfdztBsrIhFn+RK7GQRwTkPI67m5qyOTNXWGpMTQ V/FGmu7UXxhOxoSPOGQPYHGsW6b4oQL49PpyhgZPhLGFx1xuH0ffGPt4McIaNWDiVlLs bVeMoJXQZGBun4qdKX9jlFhkCHpuxRxiWe47+DidnXkaVk7WvnQhmx/sD1Vqxw9sBvEw rHu6aBU1NKu4iWOm/ocwCag+2eDrgFdq0vL4aH+7femfMTlRRyYXyHtVZiz+3Ue77sKJ 7jj8UVr7V4K/s7LQip9EaCF0g/3OSypB8MH4IW9B9A6GDjTBxnlNwoM+vic5bGuWKdn+ ga7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:accept:accept-language:mail-copies-to:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=yIxs4B/TdlbxOJJmZvcnOG2E1err1xODMW18hwWPjH0=; b=mCm2jngneg8T8SxR1kmeDAPBq/DsrwIYLoPcLHVkpzUootYXXdVFwbkp9iNOyyGc+j vq3MHhDDqrhbRU7IZQr+w1FCGGatb3rezjnmBdBMYbEU3F6IpPDGmMQ3mwgP7PhUvwEH PugEGp51MhRE3bV9lpa4RaX7K5y51aUjI+ZOyX3HiXqLNNPEgXe6crXokNAb7L34+vwX XFJnZx8wS0J5rC3Wj4MpgkV0VpZ19VRJKniuBRJcfoJJN0JmnGpLcRF3fND9yEBJzxen DG+dDAbrJ52Z0mq425kbB35KNvV+ga9Iwp2MXPpX382MbMVog8H8nQAl/6E8w8kbJ1iZ 2mnw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWxm6y1ccbbp/f1LrV8tInocFlEcvAWYYKsExinKGJVjIn5lIuT kUZzCfJIDQbR1pn0VufrkpkGJ506DfA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxxlk4FclH2G1tHg+gUUNpb0EFNn+Sml48UF3+2of89tZQzsa0IEO/rl8d6lOKOtecE1VEEgQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:97dd:: with SMTP id t29mr4008936wrb.283.1572982679228; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([89.39.107.203]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a17sm458193wmb.8.2019.11.05.11.37.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:37:58 -0800 (PST) From: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> To: "Thompson\, David" In-Reply-To: (David Thompson's message of "Tue, 5 Nov 2019 14:06:00 -0500") References: <87o8xsan5b.fsf-at-gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Accept: text/plain,text/markdown,text/x-org,text/html,text/*,*/* Accept-Language: ru,en Mail-Copies-To: always Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 22:37:55 +0300 Message-ID: <8soup10s.321942-at-gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::433 X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-UID: 63587 Cc: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The list discourse X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1066616622==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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"Thompson, David" wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 1:54 PM Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> wrote: >> "Thompson, David" wrote: >> > So you ousted the moderators that added you as moderators? How lovely= . The discourse here has gotten considerably worse since. Surely a coinci= dence. >> >> FWIW, I do not think so, on the contrary, I=CA=BCm pleased to see even a= small shift in a discourse from -at-ludo-at-gnu.org=E2=80=99s and -at-andreas-at-enge.= fr=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Clet=CA=BCs make GNU more welcoming to new contributor= s by imposing =E2=80=98contracts=E2=80=99 on them=E2=80=9D to -at-gameonlinux-at-= redchan.it=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Clet=CA=BCs make GNU more welcoming to new con= tributors by reducing the burden of formalities on them=E2=80=9D, however i= nappropriate the rest of his remarks are. > > Ignoring the blatantly incorrect summary of what Ludovic and Andreas have= said
No-no, please, do not ignore it. If you believe, that I got incorrectly, p= lease elaborate. I=CA=BCm actually not so sure whether it is a well summar= y of Ludovic=CA=BCs proposition, but Andreas=CA=BCs =E2=80=94 yes, I suppos= e, it is.
> I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say that "I prefer the toxic discours= e guy" is not a great argument in favor of the changes in the discourse her= e.
If you are used to pay more attention to =E2=80=98guys=E2=80=99 than to the= ir words, yes. I sincerely try to do the opposite, though.
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"Thompson, David" wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 1:54 PM Dmitry Alexandrov <321942-at-gmail.com> wrote: >> "Thompson, David" wrote: >> > So you ousted the moderators that added you as moderators? How lovely= . The discourse here has gotten considerably worse since. Surely a coinci= dence. >> >> FWIW, I do not think so, on the contrary, I=CA=BCm pleased to see even a= small shift in a discourse from -at-ludo-at-gnu.org=E2=80=99s and -at-andreas-at-enge.= fr=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Clet=CA=BCs make GNU more welcoming to new contributor= s by imposing =E2=80=98contracts=E2=80=99 on them=E2=80=9D to -at-gameonlinux-at-= redchan.it=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Clet=CA=BCs make GNU more welcoming to new con= tributors by reducing the burden of formalities on them=E2=80=9D, however i= nappropriate the rest of his remarks are. > > Ignoring the blatantly incorrect summary of what Ludovic and Andreas have= said
No-no, please, do not ignore it. If you believe, that I got incorrectly, p= lease elaborate. I=CA=BCm actually not so sure whether it is a well summar= y of Ludovic=CA=BCs proposition, but Andreas=CA=BCs =E2=80=94 yes, I suppos= e, it is.
> I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say that "I prefer the toxic discours= e guy" is not a great argument in favor of the changes in the discourse her= e.
If you are used to pay more attention to =E2=80=98guys=E2=80=99 than to the= ir words, yes. I sincerely try to do the opposite, though.
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