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DATE | 2019-11-05 |
FROM | Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com>
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] puri.sm (was: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign
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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::441 X-BeenThere: gnu-misc-discuss-at-gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list X-UID: 63541 Cc: gnu-system-discuss-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] puri.sm (was: Why don't gnu.org and RMS sign mail? - FDE Crypto) X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1518828358==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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Alexandre Fran=C3=A7ois Garreau wrote: > Le lundi 4 novembre 2019, 14:51:08 CET Jean Louis a =C3=A9crit : >> * gameonlinux-at-redchan.it [2019-11-04 14:05]: >> Look here how Purism, company behind the PureOS, one of the FSF endorsed= fully free system distributions is disabling the Intel management engine: >>=20 >> https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3019569/purism-disables-intels= -man agement-engine-on-linux-powered-laptops https://puri.sm/learn/avoiding= -intel-amt/ > > Purism do not respect users=E2=80=99 freedom: https://libreboot.org/faq.h= tml#will-the-purism-laptops-be-supported
I see the context of your letter and aware of certain deceptive marketing p= ractices that had been used by puri.sm. However, out of the context that c= laim looks glaringly unfair.
I=CA=BCd like to remind, that puri.sm is the first company ever that design= ed a computer [0] with the requirements of =E2=80=98Respect your freedom=E2= =80=99 certification in mind.
[0] https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
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Alexandre Fran=C3=A7ois Garreau wrote: > Le lundi 4 novembre 2019, 14:51:08 CET Jean Louis a =C3=A9crit : >> * gameonlinux-at-redchan.it [2019-11-04 14:05]: >> Look here how Purism, company behind the PureOS, one of the FSF endorsed= fully free system distributions is disabling the Intel management engine: >>=20 >> https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3019569/purism-disables-intels= -man agement-engine-on-linux-powered-laptops https://puri.sm/learn/avoiding= -intel-amt/ > > Purism do not respect users=E2=80=99 freedom: https://libreboot.org/faq.h= tml#will-the-purism-laptops-be-supported
I see the context of your letter and aware of certain deceptive marketing p= ractices that had been used by puri.sm. However, out of the context that c= laim looks glaringly unfair.
I=CA=BCd like to remind, that puri.sm is the first company ever that design= ed a computer [0] with the requirements of =E2=80=98Respect your freedom=E2= =80=99 certification in mind.
[0] https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
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