MESSAGE
| DATE | 2019-10-12 |
| FROM | Jean Louis
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Proposal to remove the off-topic,
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Dear Alexander,
I know you have sent this to me private and now I am sending it to
mailing lists, it concerns others. Let me say my comments shortly:
* Alexander Vdolainen [2019-10-11 23:00]:
> > Thank you much, please spread the facts, and ask for those people to
> > resign from GNU project, and build their own project which they will
> > not defame and damage.
> I suppose the better way is to make an offer for those 'quite damaged'
> people to calm down and re-think again.
>
> But for sure - this shit story around RMS must be gone away.
It is very simple thing, GNU project was always apolitical in all
politics but free software and RMS have uphold this himself for long
time. Ludovic Courtès and Andy Wingo and few others have stated
immaturely that they are basically defending feminist views and are by
that way introducing politics into GNU project other politics but free
software movement and rights of computer users.
That RMS himself is not apolitical outside of GNU project, we know
that all. But RMS never introduced his other political views into the
GNU project, in fact he is publishing it on www.stallman.org which is
not GNU neither FSF website. It is his personal.
Politics other but free software has no place in GNU project,
including in Guix as free system distribution. They are abusing their
Guix position to spread their feminist views. I don't mind anybody
spreading feminist views, because myself I am not political in that
sense, I like fighting for human rights, but I allow people their free
speech rights.
What I do mind is spreading their feminist views on page that was Guix
page, that shall remain apolitical, not political for anything but
free software, that shall remain independent of social views, as only
that way we can ensure freedom zero for software to be used by
anybody, how they wish.
It is very very clear since I know Guix people last 3 years that they
will not give same support on IRC log to those they (small group)
consider somehow socially not acceptable, and that is not community I
am looking for.
They support feminist views, and are using IRC chat to speak to many
people and impose their feminist views across the channel that had to
be related to free software.
> >>> skipped for better reading <<<
>
> I would ask them to think again about this shit, but if they're not so
> comfortable - yep, the only way for them is to resign.
I am of the following impression on what has to be done:
1. Either Ludovic Courtès and Andy Wingo and other feminist stance
political takers, remove their other-politics from Guix.gnu.org or
GNU pages, and refrain from introducing new politics, or
2. that FSF removes it or RMS removes it himself, and ask them to stay
apolitical on GNU pages, as GNU project does not care who thinks
what,
3. Or what is actually better when person have balls, to resign from
GNU project. But they like the US $100,000 donation they received,
and it is question if those feminists have some balls for that.
Jean
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