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DATE | 2019-10-12 |
FROM | Eric Myhre
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Joint statement on the GNU Project
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Can you just=2E=2E=2E Stop?
In very simple terms=2E Stop=2E
Your opinion, by sheer volume, is now over-represented=2E
If there was a rate-limit for posts on any given topic, you've exceeded it= by leagues, miles, kilometers, pick a unit, you've gone too far; it's tiri= ng=2E
Stop=2E
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-------- Original Message -------- From: Jean Louis Sent: October 13, 2019 12:50:34 AM GMT+09:00 To: Wilson Bustos Cc: Guix-devel , fsf-and-gnu-at-fsf=2Eorg, gnu-and-fsf-at-= gnu=2Eorg Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-12 17:45]: > Why should GuixSD feminist? > Free software movement is no about popularity, is about freedom=2E
Because Ludovic Court=C3=A8s said to me so, when I asked him, that reason for defamation of RMS is their abort() joke and Emacs Virgin jokes, including the "MIT episodes", and you can see evidences what I am talking about here on the Guix IRC log: http://logs=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/guix/2019-10-07=2Elog and here http://logs=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/guix/2019-10-08=2Elog if you search for tho= se keywords "abort" and "virgin" or "MIT"
I agree that free software shall be for freedom, but not about freedom for feminists, anti-fashists, fashists, nazis, or any other politics on GNU pages but free software politics=2E
The Thoughtpolice Squad have their own pages to publish their opinions=2E
It is not appropriate to punish RMS for Thoughtcrime on GNU=2EORG domain and GNU project shall remain apolitical to any other viewpoints but free software points=2E
See: https://www=2Eyoutube=2Ecom/watch?v=3DZGF17TbbBcE
> If woman's come to the project should be for what we are, not because we > will became a feminist movement=2E >=20 > Of course is some way the project is politics, but free software politic= s > not gender identity politics, that is something completely > different=2E
It should be, but it is not, due to lack of policy enforcement to remain apolitical=2E
Jean
--=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------0KRX6EJLN1OSHV0DV23PZ1X0RPA3LS Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can you just=2E=2E=2E Stop?
In very simple = terms=2E Stop=2E
Your opinion, by sheer volume, is now over-represe= nted=2E
If there was a rate-limit for posts on any given topic, you'= ve exceeded it by leagues, miles, kilometers, pick a unit, you've gone too = far; it's tiring=2E
Stop=2E
We acknowledge your comments; the= y are recorded=2E If you do not have any additional detail, variation, or = new thought which is to be explored=2E=2E=2E Please, for all of us: give th= e 'send' key a rest=2E
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From: Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu=2Esupport>
Sent: October 13, 2019 12:50:34 AM GMT+09:00
To: Wilson Bustos <wrbutros-at-gmail=2Ecom>
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel-at-gnu=2Eorg>, fsf-and-gnu-at-fsf=2Eorg,= gnu-and-fsf-at-gnu=2Eorg
Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project
* Wilson Bustos <wrbutros-at-gmail=2Ecom> [2019-1= 0-12 17:45]:
1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Why should= GuixSD feminist? Free software movement is no about popularity, is abou= t freedom=2E
Because Ludovic Court=C3=A8s said to me so= , when I asked him, that reason for defamation of RMS is their abort() j= oke and Emacs Virgin jokes, including the "MIT episodes", and you can se= e evidences what I am talking about here on the Guix IRC log: =3D"http://logs=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/guix/2019-10-07=2Elog">http://logs=2Egui= x=2Egnu=2Eorg/guix/2019-10-07=2Elog and here =2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/guix/2019-10-08=2Elog">http://logs=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/g= uix/2019-10-08=2Elog if you search for those keywords "abort" and "v= irgin" or "MIT"
I agree that free software shall be for freedom, but= not about freedom for feminists, anti-fashists, fashists, nazis, or any= other politics on GNU pages but free software politics=2E
The Th= oughtpolice Squad have their own pages to publish their opinions=2E <= br>It is not appropriate to punish RMS for Thoughtcrime on GNU=2EORG domain=
and GNU project shall remain apolitical to any other viewpoints but = free software points=2E
See: om/watch?v=3DZGF17TbbBcE">https://www=2Eyoutube=2Ecom/watch?v=3DZGF17TbbBcE=
0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">If woman's com= e to the project should be for what we are, not because we will became a= feminist movement=2E
Of course is some way the project is politics,= but free software politics not gender identity politics, that is someth= ing completely different=2E
It should be, but it is = not, due to lack of policy enforcement to remain apolitical=2E
Je= an
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------0KRX6EJLN1OSHV0DV23PZ1X0RPA3LS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can you just=2E=2E=2E Stop?
In very simple terms=2E Stop=2E
Your opinion, by sheer volume, is now over-represented=2E
If there was a rate-limit for posts on any given topic, you've exceeded it= by leagues, miles, kilometers, pick a unit, you've gone too far; it's tiri= ng=2E
Stop=2E
We acknowledge your comments; they are recorded=2E If you do not have any= additional detail, variation, or new thought which is to be explored=2E=2E= =2E Please, for all of us: give the 'send' key a rest=2E
-------- Original Message -------- From: Jean Louis Sent: October 13, 2019 12:50:34 AM GMT+09:00 To: Wilson Bustos Cc: Guix-devel , fsf-and-gnu-at-fsf=2Eorg, gnu-and-fsf-at-= gnu=2Eorg Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-12 17:45]: > Why should GuixSD feminist? > Free software movement is no about popularity, is about freedom=2E
Because Ludovic Court=C3=A8s said to me so, when I asked him, that reason for defamation of RMS is their abort() joke and Emacs Virgin jokes, including the "MIT episodes", and you can see evidences what I am talking about here on the Guix IRC log: http://logs=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/guix/2019-10-07=2Elog and here http://logs=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/guix/2019-10-08=2Elog if you search for tho= se keywords "abort" and "virgin" or "MIT"
I agree that free software shall be for freedom, but not about freedom for feminists, anti-fashists, fashists, nazis, or any other politics on GNU pages but free software politics=2E
The Thoughtpolice Squad have their own pages to publish their opinions=2E
It is not appropriate to punish RMS for Thoughtcrime on GNU=2EORG domain and GNU project shall remain apolitical to any other viewpoints but free software points=2E
See: https://www=2Eyoutube=2Ecom/watch?v=3DZGF17TbbBcE
> If woman's come to the project should be for what we are, not because we > will became a feminist movement=2E >=20 > Of course is some way the project is politics, but free software politic= s > not gender identity politics, that is something completely > different=2E
It should be, but it is not, due to lack of policy enforcement to remain apolitical=2E
Jean
--=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------0KRX6EJLN1OSHV0DV23PZ1X0RPA3LS Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can you just=2E=2E=2E Stop?
In very simple = terms=2E Stop=2E
Your opinion, by sheer volume, is now over-represe= nted=2E
If there was a rate-limit for posts on any given topic, you'= ve exceeded it by leagues, miles, kilometers, pick a unit, you've gone too = far; it's tiring=2E
Stop=2E
We acknowledge your comments; the= y are recorded=2E If you do not have any additional detail, variation, or = new thought which is to be explored=2E=2E=2E Please, for all of us: give th= e 'send' key a rest=2E
"Tahoma","sans-serif";padding:3=2E0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
From: Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu=2Esupport>
Sent: October 13, 2019 12:50:34 AM GMT+09:00
To: Wilson Bustos <wrbutros-at-gmail=2Ecom>
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel-at-gnu=2Eorg>, fsf-and-gnu-at-fsf=2Eorg,= gnu-and-fsf-at-gnu=2Eorg
Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project
* Wilson Bustos <wrbutros-at-gmail=2Ecom> [2019-1= 0-12 17:45]:
1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Why should= GuixSD feminist? Free software movement is no about popularity, is abou= t freedom=2E
Because Ludovic Court=C3=A8s said to me so= , when I asked him, that reason for defamation of RMS is their abort() j= oke and Emacs Virgin jokes, including the "MIT episodes", and you can se= e evidences what I am talking about here on the Guix IRC log: =3D"http://logs=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/guix/2019-10-07=2Elog">http://logs=2Egui= x=2Egnu=2Eorg/guix/2019-10-07=2Elog and here =2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/guix/2019-10-08=2Elog">http://logs=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/g= uix/2019-10-08=2Elog if you search for those keywords "abort" and "v= irgin" or "MIT"
I agree that free software shall be for freedom, but= not about freedom for feminists, anti-fashists, fashists, nazis, or any= other politics on GNU pages but free software politics=2E
The Th= oughtpolice Squad have their own pages to publish their opinions=2E <= br>It is not appropriate to punish RMS for Thoughtcrime on GNU=2EORG domain=
and GNU project shall remain apolitical to any other viewpoints but = free software points=2E
See: om/watch?v=3DZGF17TbbBcE">https://www=2Eyoutube=2Ecom/watch?v=3DZGF17TbbBcE=
0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">If woman's com= e to the project should be for what we are, not because we will became a= feminist movement=2E
Of course is some way the project is politics,= but free software politics not gender identity politics, that is someth= ing completely different=2E
It should be, but it is = not, due to lack of policy enforcement to remain apolitical=2E
Je= an
-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Ple= ase excuse my brevity=2E ------0KRX6EJLN1OSHV0DV23PZ1X0RPA3LS--
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