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SUBJECT | Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] RMS article: "Install fests: What to do about the
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Tue Mar 19 23:06:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8541016113A; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 23:06:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 40F16161134; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 23:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 23:05:56 -0400 Resent-Message-ID: <20190320030556.GA18921-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from eggs.gnu.org (eggs.gnu.org [209.51.188.92]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A140161132 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crmserver2p.fsf.org ([209.51.188.223]:57642) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h6MZ4-0005WW-Ez for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:47:44 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=my.fsf.org) by crmserver2p.fsf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h6MXk-0002yI-QK for ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:45:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Free Software Foundation" job_id: 158358 To: Ruben Safir Precedence: bulk X-CiviMail-Bounce: crmmailer+b.158358.41603536.5d89feadc2365dc6-at-fsf.org Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:45:08 -0400 Message-Id: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] RMS article: "Install fests: What to do about the deal with the devil" X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: Free Software Foundation List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0293983561==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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Dear Ruben Safir,
In ["Install fests: What to do about the deal with the devil,"][1] Richard Stallman issues both a caveat to free software novices who would like to transition to using free software exclusively via an install-fest, and a plea to install-fest organizers and volunteers not to make injurious ethical decisions for the people availing themselves of their help.
[1]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/install-fest-devil
Stallman explains that, because of obstacles deliberately devised to thwart reverse engineering, not all computers can function properly with a [completely free distro][2]. And that a choice, therefore, often has to be made, between freedom and convenience, between installing a fully free distro that won't function as intended, and installing a nonfree distro that will. He argues that this choice should be made by the *informed* user alone, not silently by the install-fest volunteer.
[2]: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
Stallman appeals to install fests to forgo the "tacit deal with the devil" that suppresses the free software movement's message about freedom and justice, and to take advantage of the teachable moment, to introduce the user to the "moral dimension" of their computing choices. He suggests a number of things an install-fest could do (implement visual demarcations that help users understand when they're about to "forfeit their freedom," give technical advice regarding free software and free hardware, encourage users to lobby offending manufacturers) in order to "retain full moral authority when it talks about the imperative for freedom." Better the devil you know than the devil you don't, and, ultimately, better no devil at all.
Sincerely,
Jeanne Rasata Assistant to the President
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Dear Ruben Safir,
In "Install fests: What to do about the deal with the devil," Richard Stallman issues both a caveat to free software novices who would like to transition to using free software exclusively via an install-fest, and a plea to install-fest organizers and volunteers not to make injurious ethical decisions for the people availing themselves of their help.
Stallman explains that, because of obstacles deliberately devised to thwart reverse engineering, not all computers can function properly with a completely free distro. And that a choice, therefore, often has to be made, between freedom and convenience, between installing a fully free distro that won't function as intended, and installing a nonfree distro that will. He argues that this choice should be made by the informed user alone, not silently by the install-fest volunteer.
Stallman appeals to install fests to forgo the "tacit deal with the devil" that suppresses the free software movement's message about freedom and justice, and to take advantage of the teachable moment, to introduce the user to the "moral dimension" of their computing choices. He suggests a number of things an install-fest could do (implement visual demarcations that help users understand when they're about to "forfeit their freedom," give technical advice regarding free software and free hardware, encourage users to lobby offending manufacturers) in order to "retain full moral authority when it talks about the imperative for freedom." Better the devil you know than the devil you don't, and, ultimately, better no devil at all.
Sincerely,
Jeanne Rasata
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Dear Ruben Safir,
In ["Install fests: What to do about the deal with the devil,"][1] Richard Stallman issues both a caveat to free software novices who would like to transition to using free software exclusively via an install-fest, and a plea to install-fest organizers and volunteers not to make injurious ethical decisions for the people availing themselves of their help.
[1]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/install-fest-devil
Stallman explains that, because of obstacles deliberately devised to thwart reverse engineering, not all computers can function properly with a [completely free distro][2]. And that a choice, therefore, often has to be made, between freedom and convenience, between installing a fully free distro that won't function as intended, and installing a nonfree distro that will. He argues that this choice should be made by the *informed* user alone, not silently by the install-fest volunteer.
[2]: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
Stallman appeals to install fests to forgo the "tacit deal with the devil" that suppresses the free software movement's message about freedom and justice, and to take advantage of the teachable moment, to introduce the user to the "moral dimension" of their computing choices. He suggests a number of things an install-fest could do (implement visual demarcations that help users understand when they're about to "forfeit their freedom," give technical advice regarding free software and free hardware, encourage users to lobby offending manufacturers) in order to "retain full moral authority when it talks about the imperative for freedom." Better the devil you know than the devil you don't, and, ultimately, better no devil at all.
Sincerely,
Jeanne Rasata Assistant to the President
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Dear Ruben Safir,
In "Install fests: What to do about the deal with the devil," Richard Stallman issues both a caveat to free software novices who would like to transition to using free software exclusively via an install-fest, and a plea to install-fest organizers and volunteers not to make injurious ethical decisions for the people availing themselves of their help.
Stallman explains that, because of obstacles deliberately devised to thwart reverse engineering, not all computers can function properly with a completely free distro. And that a choice, therefore, often has to be made, between freedom and convenience, between installing a fully free distro that won't function as intended, and installing a nonfree distro that will. He argues that this choice should be made by the informed user alone, not silently by the install-fest volunteer.
Stallman appeals to install fests to forgo the "tacit deal with the devil" that suppresses the free software movement's message about freedom and justice, and to take advantage of the teachable moment, to introduce the user to the "moral dimension" of their computing choices. He suggests a number of things an install-fest could do (implement visual demarcations that help users understand when they're about to "forfeit their freedom," give technical advice regarding free software and free hardware, encourage users to lobby offending manufacturers) in order to "retain full moral authority when it talks about the imperative for freedom." Better the devil you know than the devil you don't, and, ultimately, better no devil at all.
Sincerely,
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