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DATE | 2018-03-04 |
FROM | valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Year 2038 time set problem
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Mon Mar 5 20:46:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C97163F54; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 20:46:56 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 28D15161134; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 20:46:53 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 20:46:53 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20180306014653.GV2765-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from omr1.cc.vt.edu (outbound.smtp.vt.edu [198.82.183.121]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619B1161132 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2018 17:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr3.cc.vt.edu (mr3.cc.ipv6.vt.edu [IPv6:2607:b400:92:8500:0:7f:b804:6b0a]) by omr1.cc.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w24MOQBh014247 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2018 17:24:26 -0500 Received: from mail-qk0-f197.google.com (mail-qk0-f197.google.com [209.85.220.197]) by mr3.cc.vt.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w24MOKqS011150 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2018 17:24:25 -0500 Received: by mail-qk0-f197.google.com with SMTP id a143so12856400qkg.4 for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2018 14:24:25 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:date:message-id; bh=pR/ieS+o1FtYH1jyBh5lwptaRGr6JD1vdTD0P82SU80=; b=jPlTIiDadcBo664V7OwuXuLppeug1MIz1vH/eTnImHaMOzoNgXhEIRWBCAWNye+vwi 7kHlGy+Oox0bm6ZAoPwZn68eSk5z3lRWolEdgIVJdCNcitwwh04Bs5Pjd12lyeQrBcXk JvgMAI1HiNHn6cbrC2uMOmRcMgSaEMgS6FpQFEr7HgpkHLSx1iLrt9VJ853B8LXzFPvG XySZMaNeRFvnpe84kvjsfPxyZzSVT3K8RAknbJg/qvkwJjjZIQBcN69h3XJN8NaRlRyn TT608On524jIWuuSI794R8JBXcHO4BKMJVVRfcqLzaW+ntIFmYN2+v/9Zz31qrLuVEkq RYOA== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7FeQlCl8cYT/T52xMx1kE4Yzk0GyxY5ThYofTmLjHpS7nb0smu9 hvKaJPN+srPe16ePDjvrjlHMJzI+MF1AEi1JnL8/oACsoZDV4TxgahK6wpM46HR4pHX2qVDFXAP tqb1K984wfTM4C6SQ/BIWcQ== X-Received: by 10.200.26.55 with SMTP id v52mr20433192qtj.53.1520202260763; Sun, 04 Mar 2018 14:24:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELtBRoFzVTl9P7mjhaLXLYKQt9ep4ulfUjhJ3H2gpMXaVWcqEQKuqHSsTpwMKtULxGf1qG3Jdg== X-Received: by 10.200.26.55 with SMTP id v52mr20433173qtj.53.1520202260511; Sun, 04 Mar 2018 14:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu ([2601:5c0:c001:4342:7d23:349e:fc99:eb05]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 1sm1381476qky.32.2018.03.04.14.24.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 04 Mar 2018 14:24:19 -0800 (PST) From: valdis.kletnieks-at-vt.edu X-Google-Original-From: Valdis.Kletnieks-at-vt.edu X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2017 with nmh-1.7+dev To: Alex Arvelaez In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2018 17:24:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77520.1520202258-at-turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-UID: 46774 Cc: "kernelnewbies-at-kernelnewbies.org" Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Year 2038 time set problem X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1099974338==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 20:47:15 +0000, Alex Arvelaez said: > You can kexec into the newer kernel to avoid rebooting if you absolutel= y must > but yeah the best practice is to keep your system up to date and that r= equires > some disruption of service.
If you can't afford the disruption of service a reboot causes, you *reall= y* need to be deploying HA or load-balancer solutions.
Because if you can't afford a reboot's worth of 15-20 minutes of downtime= , you *really* can't afford the 6-8 hours you're probably going to be down if a= chip soldered onto the motherboard/backplane fries.
(All of =24DAYJOB's important systems are behind HA or load-balancers, as= well as HA-capable storage. Let's just say that some vendors make it easier than=
others to set up 8+2 RAID6 across 10 separate shelves of storage, and des= igning mutli-petabyte solutions without single points of failure is harder than = it looks :)
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 20:47:15 +0000, Alex Arvelaez said: > You can kexec into the newer kernel to avoid rebooting if you absolutel= y must > but yeah the best practice is to keep your system up to date and that r= equires > some disruption of service.
If you can't afford the disruption of service a reboot causes, you *reall= y* need to be deploying HA or load-balancer solutions.
Because if you can't afford a reboot's worth of 15-20 minutes of downtime= , you *really* can't afford the 6-8 hours you're probably going to be down if a= chip soldered onto the motherboard/backplane fries.
(All of =24DAYJOB's important systems are behind HA or load-balancers, as= well as HA-capable storage. Let's just say that some vendors make it easier than=
others to set up 8+2 RAID6 across 10 separate shelves of storage, and des= igning mutli-petabyte solutions without single points of failure is harder than = it looks :)
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